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Discussion in 'Loss of Spouse' started by Helena Beatriz, May 4, 2022.

  1. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    P.S. I used to HATE!!! going to bed because I was terrified of waking up, thinking that Bob would be right next to me. I'm so sorry you're having miserable night dreams. I hope tonight you're able to get some quality, uninterrupted sleep...
     
  2. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    P.S.S.

    I forgot to add tonight at the end of the last sentence. Foggy widow brain SUCKS!!!
     
  3. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    George , I'm on the same page with Deb
    about winning more battles with Mr. G,
    than we did before. The sad realization is
    that we can never really win the war.
    Bob, Valerie, & Linda , are with us until
    the day we die, & our spirits are reunited.
    I'm sorry you had no real spring, & you
    went from a nasty cold winter , into
    90 degree summer. My area wasn't quite
    as bad, but it reached 80 degrees yesterday,
    and I had an unexpected allergy attack,
    bc the wind blew the creepy pollen around.
    My eyes were itchy , & my nose was
    dripping, in a disgusting manner. I was
    lucky I could buy Kleenex packs, on my
    way home. Once there, I took a shower, &
    was able to shampoo that pollen crap
    out of my hair. I will buy an allergy
    product to have on hand. It rained last
    night, & there was a fog which cooled my
    town. Do you have fog, George? I recall a
    poem , by Carl Sandburg, many years ago,
    comparing a gentle fog over Chicago, as
    being like a cat's feer".
     
  4. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Patti,

    As always, it's so good to "see" you... I bet the wall clocks you made were so very beautiful...

    I wish I knew how to help you, but being way too technically challenged and not using an iPad, I have no idea. I hope you're able to figure out how to resolve the issue soon!!!, TUTTAM!!!

    As always, keeping you and all of our GIC "family" in my prayers... praying for the strength we need as we continue to travel down this miserable path that not one of us would have chosen to take.

    Sending you and JayCee lots of hugs and love, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
  5. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    P.S. , George, like Deb, I've found that
    "foggy widower's brain" SUCKS BIG
    TIME!!!.My last word should've been
    feet, not "feer".Did you catch that one,
    Karen? Lou
     
  6. Rose69

    Rose69 Well-Known Member

    Hi everyone, even though I'm new in this group I noticed too how quiet you had all been. My reason is that now that Winter's finally over, Spring is here, Summer at the doorstep, I'm just feeling much
    sadder and longing so much more for my husband, the memories of our days out together, spending time working outside on our property, planting tomatoes and lots of other vegetables, cherrypicking, motorbike rides, so unbearable to think about. It's as if all this beauty that surrounds me now is a waste because he isn't here to see it, I don't want sunny days, what's the point?
    Lou, you say that when Mr Grief comes knocking we have to let him in, well I consider Mr Grief to be an intruder and we don't invite intruders into our homes. I didn't invite him, he broke in. That's the way I see it. You all sound like such a lovely bunch (I still remember a British expression every now and then).
     
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  7. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Rose, I've learned the hard way that we
    can't eliminate grief. We win battles, but
    we can never win the war against Mr.
    Grief, as Karen calls him. How can we,
    after so many years with our soulmates?
    They are with us 'til the day we die, and
    our spirits are reunited. Lou
     
  8. cjpines

    cjpines Well-Known Member

    Well, I did see it, but thought it was another term for a cat's feet. Haaaaa! the laugh's on me.
     
  9. RLC

    RLC Well-Known Member

    Rose I can totally relate to what you’re saying about grief knocking. And that it’s an unwanted intruder. I agree, it’s so unwanted. But through time I’ve learned that it doesn’t go away it keeps building unless we let the tears happen and talk about our feelings. We all “deal” in our own way and time. I was at the same point you’re mentioning, a while back. Who cares if it’s summer or a holiday or whatever. I do now look forward to spring and summer and doing the things Ron and I did together. I want to honor him and for him to see all I’m doing and for him to be proud I’m his wife. Losing my life partner will always be devastating. But now I use Ron as my reason to keep going and keep trying. Robin
     
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  10. cjpines

    cjpines Well-Known Member

    Yes, Mr. Grief is certainly a intruder and breaks in without calling first. I feel the same way about the summer coming and everything Jack and I used to do in the garden, planting veggies, fruit trees, harvesting them, canning them and eating them. Now, as I think about it, I'm so grateful I had these years with him to enjoy our property which was his palace. He loved to garden. It's been a year and half and my memories of this used to hurt and pain me, now the pain has soften. I'm grateful he had his dream.
    Rose, keep sharing with us. Sharing here is like writing in a journal. I'm not a journal person, so here is where I vent. Keep Upright! Karen
     
  11. RLC

    RLC Well-Known Member

    Great choice of words. The pain has softened. That’s exactly what happens. Never out of mind never forgotten but memories soften and can eventually bring a smile. Robin
     
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  12. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Karen, it's wonderful to hear you use
    the word, grateful. Tom Zuba, who was
    suicidal, after the deaths of his wife and
    2 of his children, advised mourners, in
    Permission to Mourn, to try to be grateful,
    not take anything personally, and to
    forgive everything. He said it was very
    hard to do, and it is, but I'm trying. I had
    a pang of survivor's guilt , while shaving
    with my electric razor. I looked at my
    mournful face in the mirror, had a moment of both sadness & anger, wishing
    Linda were here to share the summer
    with me. I swore softly, pushed past
    Mr. Grief & walked outside to a
    perfect, sunny day, with clear blue skies,
    in the 60s, at last, and felt better when I
    had a few LMSO with friends. Lou
     
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  13. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Karen, glad you saw it. It's like old times,
    when I first met you, in July, of 2021.
    We have our own grief & laughter
    thread, which you tried to start, on GIC.
    But, we are sometimes a brooding
    bunch. Lou
     
  14. Helena Beatriz

    Helena Beatriz Well-Known Member

    I'm so tired, thinking I can full my brain that I'm OK I'm not OK, I try to sleep but it's not possible I'm afraid that Geoff will come to my dreams again it's like I'm living in a loop in another reality, remainds me of a movie this guy goes to sleep, night after night the same dream over and over again, I get so emotional....the F xxx g doctors solution take antidepressants and sleeping pills. With my poor concentration if I'm reading I have to go back a few pages I don't know what I was reading...this grieving SUCKS A BIG TIME!! thanks for listening my warrior friends. HB
     
  15. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Helena, when I was having my breakfast,
    & drinking coffee this morning after 7am,
    I was happy to see you on GIC. But then,
    I noticed you wrote your post at 3am, and
    I felt bad for you that you were doing this
    in the middle of the night. The movie sounds like Groundhog Day, starring Bill
    Murray, released 25 years ago. He was
    tortured, bc every morning was the same,
    and he would hear the song, "I've Got You,
    Babe", by Sonny & Cher. The movie was
    played for laughs, & was a romantic
    comedy, but it wasn't funny for the Bill
    Murray character. Gary gave some
    excellent techniques for falling asleep &
    sleeping through the night. Right after
    Linda died, I couldn't sleep at all, and
    would write my emotions of grief
    ( overwhelming sadness, loneliness,
    anger, and guilt, that I didn't do enough to
    "save" Linda, or to tell her how much I
    loved her in the moment that she collapsed, & soon died, right in front of
    me). As I've said on GIC before, I had
    PTSD, bc I couldn't get that last image out
    of my head. I went to the ER, & from
    there, volunteered to be in a psychiatric
    unit for 5 nights. The staff allowed me to
    stay up all night, writing in my journal.
    But , then, they gave me a small dose of
    over-the counter Melatonin, to relax my
    racing thoughts. I was only able to sleep
    4 hours, at first. But, I would attend
    counselor led groups, do artwork (!),
    take long walks outside, with other clients
    & staff. I would go to bed, and get up in the
    morning, at the same time every day. If I
    had to take a nap, I would limit it to a
    half hour, or less. I learned the hard way
    one afternoon, when I took a 2 hour nap,
    that it wasn't a good idea. When I woke up,
    I was disoriented, and didn't know if it was
    morning or night. Now, 3 & a half years
    later, I make sure to walk outside in
    nature every morning, even if it's raining.
    I know you have more torrential rains, so
    you may have to wait 'til it passes. I hope
    this helps you. All of TGW have been in the
    same boat with us, and I hope other GW
    will answer you. Lou
     
  16. Helena Beatriz

    Helena Beatriz Well-Known Member

    Dear Deb, always thanks so much for your kind words and wishes. The last few days I have tried to hide my feelings fooling my brain and my friends here that I'm OK. My sadness and loneliness are here no matter how much effort I put to stay busy, I don't sleep well, now I'm afraid to sleep bc I will have recurring dreams, it's only 15 weeks since Geoff died, he was the most important person, love of life and only friend and he is not here anymore he is not coming back...reaching for more tissues...more tears, I'm a mess. I can't even write one sentence without crying, will continue later after my walk. HB
     
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  17. eyepilot13

    eyepilot13 Well-Known Member

    I'm just so damn itchy. Fog is more by the lake., I'm 20 miles or so inland so not too much here. Today looks pleasant weatherwise hope to take carte of stuff and go for a walk... take care big bro!~
     
  18. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Helena, I'm glad you saw the post of our
    kind friend, Deb, who still experiences
    your lack of sleep, at times, about a
    year after Bob's death. I hope you have a
    chance to read my long reply to you,
    around 7am this morning. I saw that
    you had posted in the middle of the
    night, at 3am, and I felt so bad for you.
    It's been 3 & a half years since Linda's
    death. I'm sleeping better now, & the
    walks in the sunshine of spring,are a
    lot easier , than walking in the cold, &
    sometimes, snowy winter. The winter
    was depressing, bc I had COVID, and
    didn't have Linda to take care of me.
    I told TGW about my winter dreams,
    which I called " hug Linda " dreams.
    I would imagine she was next to me,
    and would reach out to hug her, but
    would be either hugging my pillow,
    or even myself. When I realized she
    was dead ,I would wake up crying. After
    I stopped, I'd have breakfast & much
    needed coffee, before venturing
    outside. I would gradually feel better,
    in nature, and later, seeing my friends.
    All I can say, Helena, is that we're all in
    the same boat. Some days, the waves of
    grief are calm. Other days, we fear that
    the waves will overpower & drown us.
    We are Grief Warriors, and will not
    let you drown in your sorrow. Lou
     
  19. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    George, I'm sorry for your itchiness, but I
    hope you'll feel better after your walk.
    Do you ever drive over to the lake? I
    recall the singer & composer, Randy
    Newman, saying that ANY body of water
    soothed his soul: a lake, ocean, a river,
    a waterfall,or even his own shower. I feel
    that way. When Linda & I didn't live by
    the ocean, we lived by a river. Lou
     
  20. Countess Joy

    Countess Joy Well-Known Member

    Good morning, Helena
    My sleep has been quite disrupted by grief as well.
    The fatigue of grief doesn’t bring sleep, and certainly not rest.
    The last few weeks in particular have been rough.
    Many important days have come and gone in May, yesterday was Kenn’s birthday.
    With the full moon and lunar eclipse this weekend everything feels heavier to me.
    I, and others, have mentioned along the way that reading, anything that uses concentration really, is compromised in grief, our brains and nervous systems have taken a blow. Making decisions about things that I feel should be second nature became tough- I can’t be certain about my judgement- it’s so odd.
    May today bring you little reprieve, perhaps some rest.
    ~Bernadine
     
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