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Discussion in 'Loss of Spouse' started by Lost and in pain, Jul 20, 2022.

  1. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    P,S. Robin & Rose: Sitting on same bench on
    which Linda & I sat, gazing out at the ocean. Deb has referred to the bittersweet
    memories of grief. That doesn"t begin to
    describe my kaleidoscope of emotions this
    beautiful sunny day by the sea . l have
    love & sadness for Linda, guilt to be
    happy ( looking forward to an outdoor
    music festival, which Linda never
    experienced). Why the hell didn't the
    festival & Whale's Jaw Cafe exist when
    Linda was alive? She never got to meet
    the friemds I made after she died.She
    would have loved them, as I do. Linda
    bought me a blues harp, bc our 1st date
    was at the House of Blues. Being the
    lazy, procrastinating asshole I was. I never
    learned to play it. She would tease me
    about that. Like Karen, I miss her teasing
    now.............. Lou
     
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  2. Rose69

    Rose69 Well-Known Member

    Lou, being able to sit on a bench on the ocean, regularly, is something my darling C would have loved to do with me. He loved the sea, but we live quite far from the coastline, although, luckily, we live in the country, our house surrounded by beautiful hills and mountains. (I'll try to send photos). That is better than being in our nearby busy town. It's actually very unusual that I'm able to stay outside at half past three on an August afternoon. We would usually have at least 100F temperatures with 100% humidity! But it's cooled down now, after ten days of persistent rain/hail storms!
    Sorry you haven't learned to play the blues harp your Linda bought for you, but it does seem quite a difficult instrument to play. What a lovely memoir you have, though. I understand how sad you feel that your darling wife didn't get to see the live musicians you see at your favourite café. I'm so sad that my C didn't get to see our world 'reopening', everything almost going back to normal, after two years of pandemic. It's so heartbreaking to experience our 'positivities' and not being able to share them with our soulmates.

    Stay well, Lou, enjoy your day out by the ocean. Send me some virtual ocean air.

    Rose.
     
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  3. Robin, Same. I would never leave the house without makeup. Husband and daughter would insist I looked fine. I’d refuse. Many times, it was just too much of a bother and I’d stay home. So many wasted opportunities. What I wouldn’t give to have Doug here now, I’d happily skip out of the house with no make up, hair pulled back and sweats…daughter and I were out grocery shopping yesterday. My heart would stop every time I saw an older couple. Doug and I were supposed to grow old together. My God it hurts so much. 42 years. When I shared my thoughts with my daughter, she told me her heart breaks every time she sees a father with his children…so much pain and none of this had to happen. OK, I’m ready to share my story now…

    This is going to be long so y’all feel free to come back later when you have more time…Doug was the 4th of 5 children, all dark hair, brown eyes. Doug was blonde and blue eyes. The joke was that he was the milkman’s child…moms aren’t supposed to have favorites but his mom had confessed he was extra special. Doug was very close to his mom. His mom had diabetes and in 1994, she died. Doug fell apart. He had always enjoyed a few drinks, but he began pouring it down. Mass quantities. Doug never called me by name. I was always ‘Babe’. One day I came home from work. He was already home. I heard from the bedroom a loud SUSAN!! and I began running. I knew something was wrong. I found him sitting on the edge of the bed in a pool of blood. His clothes were soaked, blood smeared all over his face, all on the floor and it appeared to be a faucet coming from his nose. No idea how he hadn’t passed out from loss of blood. Against his wishes, I called 911 and he was taken to the ER. They tried for 6 hrs to stop the bleeding and at 11:30 PM, decided emergency surgery was required. Turned out that the drinking had weakened the membranes way up in his nasal passages. He would have bled to death. That didn’t stop him. 2 more times I took him to the ER… then, after 19 years of trying and finally giving up, I became pregnant. Doug stopped drinking. Just like that.. Stopped. We agreed that we didn’t want our child going to daycare so one of us would have to quit their job. I made more money and Doug was more patient so Doug stayed home. For 20 years, he was a model dad. Every ballet class and recital, every soccer practice, game or tournament, every cross country meet, every choir rehearsal, Doug was in the thick of it. Everyone loved him. I’m not sure when it started. Perhaps a beer at Oktoberfest or a margarita during a dinner out and then just a drink now and again at home. Nothing major. He would go without for months. I have no idea what happened or when, but somewhere along the line, the drinking progressed. I’d comment and he’d supposedly stop. We were down to one parent, his dad, who was in his early 90’s and a weak heart. He was rushed to the hospital on numerous occasions. Once, it was especially bad and Doug apparently showed up intoxicated. He was not well received… First week of May, his dad died. I was terrified that Doug would again start pouring it down. The night before the funeral, I warned Doug not to embarrass himself or the family. He did great. Looked so handsome in his suit. So many generations were there. An Honor Guard was present, a flag was presented to each child, Taps was played.,And Doug looked awesome. All seemed to be relatively ok in the days to follow. I knew he was having a little, but I had no idea. 1 month after his dad died, I had a stroke. Doug usually seemed ok but occasionally had too much. I came unglued. I told him that for 42 years I had taken care of him, been there for him, called in sick and stayed home to take care of him and now, for the first time, I needed him to take care of me! He said he knew that and was working on stopping. I wanted to believe him. But he’d eat very little, claiming to already have eaten, disappear into a back bedroom or garage for extended periods…the morning of June 29th,I got up to get ready for work. As had happened so many times before, Doug said he wasn’t feeling well and was staying home. I was pissed. I ALWAYS stayed home to care for him. ALWAYS. I’d had enough. I was going to work even though my vision was somewhat impaired and I was weak. I told him I was going to work. I told him if he felt worse, to cal 911. Before I left, I said again that I was leaving for work and asked f he agreed. He just mumbled. I’d never done this before, not in 42 years. That was the last time I’d see him alive. After hours of not responding to calls or texts, I went home and found him. If only I hadn’t left. Even if I couldn’t save him, I could have been with him. Now, I am filled with so much pain, pain for my loss, my daughter’s loss, anger because all of this pain didn’t have to happen and guilt. So much guilt. I tell myself I deserve the pain but my daughter…what if I’d stayed. She might still have a dad. Those last moments with Doug right before I left will haunt me until my last breath. I’ll never grow old with someone. I’ll never again be with the person who knew me as well as I knew myself. Never. I shouldn’t have gone to work. The best scenario now is that my daughter find a good man and start a family of her own, and I’ll be free to die. I am oh so ready.
     
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  4. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Thank you so much for your quick
    reply, Rose. I knew you would , bc of the
    love of music you & C shared together.
    Linda loved live concerts , and I have to
    remember we saw some famous musicians
    who are no longer with us---physically--
    like Ray Charles & B.B. King. I donated my
    harp, bc it depressed me to look at it. I've
    done the same thing with Linda's items,
    or gifts she gave me, that I felt would be in
    better hands. I'm sure Robin will respond
    to me, bc she's finally been able to hear
    live bands, with her daughter, without
    weeping, like both of us did before. I also
    think Bernadine will answer me, bc her
    soulmate, Kenn, played a blues trumpet,
    and they went to many clubs together,
    and met other musicians. Lou
     
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  5. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Oh, my God, Susan. What a story about
    your husband, Doug. He was an alcoholic,
    who was killing himself & didn't care. The
    alcohol became more important to him than you or your daughter. Now, AA tries to help people, like Doug, become sober &
    to live healthy and happy lives with their
    loved ones. Doug chose another way. What
    is clear to me, is that IT IS NOT YOUR
    FAULT. The same thing would've happened
    another time. You couldn't "save" Doug
    any more than I could "save" Linda, who
    collapsed, and died soon after from a
    pulmonary embolism, right in front of me.
    It was 3 & a half years ago, and I had PTSD,
    bc I couldn't get that last image out of my
    head. I went to a grief counselor, who
    guided me through my survivor's guilt.
    Have you considered a grief counselor?
    Also, you may want to look into A-Anon,
    for spouses of alcoholics. Perhaps others
    in the group also suffered seeing their
    soulmates slowly die. You were very brave
    and honest on GIC, Susan. That's a vital
    part of healing. God Bless You. Lou
     
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  6. He did care. But alcoholism is a disease. I’m sure he didn’t think it would kill him, just make him sick like before and he’d stop..I’d helped wean him off before… I should have again…or taken him somewhere inpatient basis… could have.. should have…I understand you can only see Doug based on the brief moments I described above. That was over a period of 42 years and there were many years of sobriety and happiness. He was a good man but a man with a disease. He was worth fighting for. So many times he told me he was so lucky to have me, best wife he could ever have wanted, didn’t deserve me and I’d joke that he’d better not forget that! But really, I was lucky too. When he was sober, he was beyond compare. An awesome man. Kind. Generous. Patient. Lived by all who knew him. In our younger years, he begged for a Harley, our first big purchase. He would ride out to the lake and hang with bikers ( wasn’t until years later that I found out they were Hells Angels.) He looked like them. Long hair, earring… and he would share the Gospel with them. It’s unknown how many souls he led to Christ but for many, it was their only chance. No one else would have talked with them. That was my Doug. An awesome human who had a disease.
     
  7. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Susan, forgive me if I sounded harsh
    & judgemental toward Doug. I felt bad
    for you & your daughter. I know that
    alcoholism is a disease, and extremely
    addictive. Cigarettes are even worse,
    and harder to give up. If someone
    quits & takes it up again, there's a
    good chance of an earlier death. I'm
    glad you had wonderful memories of
    Doug when he was sober, and a loving
    husband & father. He was complex,
    just like the Hell's Angels. They can be
    hard drinking, drug fueled barroom
    brawlers ,or ride for a worthy cause.
    They can also be very patriotic
    veterans. Lou
     
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  8. cjpines

    cjpines Well-Known Member

    Linda bought you a blues harp. I have a audio harp is that the same thing?
    Well, Lou, you need to make some typo's. Or have I missed any? Oh,oh, I found one, (friemds). frie mends. She probably would of loved to meet your frie mends if she knew who they were, or what they were. You're right on track.
     
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  9. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Karen, woke up briefly , at 3am, & checked
    emails.You made me chuckle, with my typo,
    you rascal! Harp is a harmonica. My
    drummer friend plays that, and
    occasionally goes up on stage with a band,
    and sings the blues, like Stormy Monday.
    I look that song up on my phone, and
    play the Albert King version.The blues are
    perfect for my grieving. There are times
    when The Thrill is Gone ( sung by B.B.King,
    who Linda & I saw). Lou
     
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  10. cjpines

    cjpines Well-Known Member

    I absolutely go crazy listening to the blues with a harmonica. It's hard to find bands that are experts with harmonicas. There was a local band called: Little Charlie and the Nightcats". Boy could they belt out that harmonica. They have since gone world wide, many years back.
     
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  11. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Karen, I'm ALREADY CRAZY, so I love
    most bands. Going to hear rock band
    tonight, with a joyous female singer
    ( mother of 3), who sways to the beat &
    has a radiant smile. I look at her, but not
    in a creepy way. If I were still drinking,
    I probably would have.Trying to take my
    mind off surgery tomorrow am. My
    drummer friend is driving me to a
    hospital out of town. I will be under
    anesthesia, and have to allow for 5 hours
    there. Lou
     
  12. cjpines

    cjpines Well-Known Member

    Lou, surgery. What's up?
     
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  13. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Thanks for asking, Karen. Hernia
    specialist wants to do operation now, before it gets worse. I'm not ashamed to
    admit that I'm more scared of the hospital
    on Friday. I had told the hernia specialist,
    that I feel a lump on the left side of my
    chest. I freaked out, bc Linda went into
    the hospital with breast cancer, & it
    spread painfully to her back. My head says
    we had very different body types. Poor
    Linda was doomed, bc she had Diabetes 2,
    became depressed, and didn't want to go
    outside with her walker. As you know, I
    walk everywhere, feel fit, but........My
    ultrasound & X-ray were OK. But, I have to
    undergo a mammogram on Friday am.
    It's possible that it's a cyst, but I've been
    wishing Linda were here, by my side,
    physically. I told the female technicians
    about Linda's cancer, and then, shocking,
    sudden death in front of me. I broke down
    & cried, and thanked the women for
    listening. Lou
     
  14. cjpines

    cjpines Well-Known Member

    Thanks for sharing, we all will be with you tomorrow Lou. You're tough, you'll come out just fine. No one likes hospitals. When I broke my arm I had to go to ER and it brought back so many memories when Jack went three times. So, I know how you feel about hospitals. It's all in our heads.
     
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  15. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Thanks, my dear friend. You've come such
    a long way from the "Girl with the Broken
    Arm". Drinking was taking me down a
    path of despair & loneliness. I'm sitting
    at an outdoor band concert next to the
    Legion. Though not a veteran, I'm wearing
    a hat with an American flag, out of respect
    for my Vietnam vet buddies. In my
    new tradition of not hesitating to talk
    with people, I spotted my grief
    counselor in a lawn chair a couple rows
    in front of me. I went up to her & said
    hello. She gave me a warm smile. I
    pointed to the ocean & the band, and
    said, " ocean & music, great therapy".
    She nodded. I said she looked great.
    She's in her late 60s, and let her long hair
    go gray, but I knew her warm face
    right away. I'm glad I said something.
    It was my way of thanking her. Lou
     
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  16. cjpines

    cjpines Well-Known Member

    Noisey me. Is this counselor available?
    I want the ocean and the band Now!
     
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  17. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    "Noisey"? Hum.....haha!!
     
  18. RLC

    RLC Well-Known Member

    Lou, I’m with you and really enjoy the summer months. And need to enjoy every minute we can. The fresh air is so healing and I love my time on the beach too. All that you do, getting out and enjoying fresh air, on the water. Time with friends, all that is you taking care of yourself. I know you’re feeling extra vulnerable because of your surgery tomorrow. I’m praying that it goes well and you get through with flying colors. Try not to go to those negative thoughts Lou. You’re walking, laughing and doing your best to enjoy life. I just now see you’re having hernia surgery. You got this! We’re praying for you. Let us know when you’re able how you’re doing. We’re in your corner as you know. You're a wonderful friend to me and everyone on here. We’re here to support you through this and Friday. I hope you’re able to get some rest tonight. Take care, sending you hugs.
    Robin
     
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  19. Rose69

    Rose69 Well-Known Member

    Dear Lou
    I want to wish you all the very best for your surgery. Don't worry, everything will be OK, we're all thinking of you.

    Look forward to hearing from you soon.
    A big virtual hug.
    Rose.
     
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  20. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Rose! A virtual hug, around the
    world, to you. I just woke up, at almost 6am. and was pleased to see you & Robin
    wishing me well today. I will need both of
    you, and other GW, on Friday, for my
    other procedure, which I'm more concerned about. When I woke up about
    the same time yesterday, I wrote a long
    list of my GW friends, and neglected to
    mention your name specifically. But, I do
    think of you as one of the newer, quieter
    members. I remember when I got you to
    say C.s name, and I'm so glad you were
    brave enough to do so. Though a reserved
    person, you have brought so much wisdom
    and kindness to TGW, including me. Lou
     
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