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Discussion in 'Loss of Spouse' started by tracymillerclark, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Rose, you and Gary are my heroes in your
    research on grief, and how to cope with it.
    This morning, I woke up with the most
    vivid dream I've had of my hugging Linda
    and making her laugh. In what would be
    her last months with me on earth, she had
    become sedentary, sitting in a comfortable
    chair in the living room, watching TV. One
    day, she asked for a hug, and I said, "Only
    if it's a stand up one". She laughed, as she
    awkwardly did just that. We embraced ,
    and I told her how wonderful she felt. I
    woke up--- hugging MYSELF-- and cried
    when I realized Linda was dead, and it was
    only a dream. I haven't had a dream like
    this in quite a while, and had to ask, "why
    now?". One possible explanation is that
    my friend ( whose soulmate died,also) , and I have gone to places with live music,
    with a lot of women, much younger than
    we are. All it does is make me feel old, and
    to miss Linda even more, if that's possible.
    I'm glad you discovered the TED talks.
    Nora McIrney is my favorite, with her
    sarcastic, self deprecating comic persona.
    She said that when she married again
    after her husband died, that her friends
    were relieved, as if to say , "that takes care of THAT!", when of course it doesn't . She
    loved her first husband, and missed him
    more than ever. As for the Robin Williams
    character, urging his students to "seize the
    day", I say the same thing , to kick my
    sorry ass out the door in the morning. Lou
     
  2. Gary166

    Gary166 Guest

    I don’t smoke and I’m not trying to contribute to anyone’s delinquency. I wish I knew how to carve. Gary
     

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  3. Rose69

    Rose69 Well-Known Member

    That's a lovely dream Lou, I was moved reading your words. I remember my " hugging" dream I had about my C, but that hug was to tell me that he hadn't gone away after all, it had a been a mistake and that he was actually still here. :(
    La Rose
     
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  4. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Rose. When Linda died, we had
    moved, and we had no family ( all dead) , or friends. The only person I could call, was the woman who owned a restaurant,
    across the street from Linda's rehab/
    nursing home. Linda hated the food at that
    place, so I would bring food from the
    restaurant back to Linda's room,, and we
    would eat it together. The restaurant
    owner would always ask how Linda was
    doing. She was like a daughter we never
    had, but she never met Linda. In fact, none
    of the people I know now, knew her, which
    astonishes me, bc she would've loved them
    as I do. One of the reasons I walk with
    Linda's cane, is that it reminds me to talk
    about her with friends and strangers
    alike, and they are moved, and wish they
    had known her. Linda is part of who I am.
    Though it hurts daily, especially in the
    morning when I wake up, I can't imagine
    what kind of man I'd be if I had never had
    her in my life. Lou
     
  5. Rose69

    Rose69 Well-Known Member

    My Valentine's Day dedication for my beautiful soulmate, always and forever, my one and only love. The lyrics of a wonderful song, sung by Celine Dion: "Because you loved me".
     

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  6. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Rose, thank you for your beautiful
    Valentine's Day thoughts about your
    dear C, which could apply to all of TGW
    in regard to their soulmates on this day.
    My most memorable Valentine's Day
    turned out to be the last one we shared.
    We made an impromptu visit to our
    favorite restaurant, miraculously without a
    reservation. Usually, we would sit at a bar,
    but that was becoming problematic, bc of
    the loudness of some people. That disturbed my wife especially. This time,
    we sat in a quiet booth, and had a romantic dinner. I cry as I write this. Until this year,
    I couldn't face this day without Linda, and
    hated seeing flowers, boxes of candy, cards,
    and decorations everywhere I went. My
    local Senior Center director addressed
    this holiday in her newsletter. She said
    this was tough for single, divorced, and
    widowed people. She said that for us, it
    could be called " Singles Awareness Day".
    I decided to go to my local cafe today to
    hear a music duo, a man on guitar, and a
    female vocalist. Both are in their 60s, and
    single. They plan to sing love songs, perhaps old ones , like those of Gershwin.
    I'm going with a friend, whose soulmate
    died 3 yrs ago, to my 4. Lou
     
  7. Rose69

    Rose69 Well-Known Member

    Lou, that's a lovely memory you have of your Linda.
    I also couldn't bear to look at all those huge red hearts decorating the aisles when I walked into a shopping centre the other day. I remember our first Valentine's Day together, twenty-eight years ago, a couple of months after we'd first met. Since we hadn't known each other that long, I wasn't sure of his intentions yet, wondering if he was seeing a future in our relationship, if he was completely taken by me or not (I know I was, by him!) and then I received an answer to my 'wondering', when he invited me for a romantic dinner and gave me a goldchain as a present, first Valentine present I'd ever received in my life. First serious relationship, actually. We went back to that restaurant a few times and like you Lou, it will remain special for me, we would also sit in one of the booths they had there, with candle-lit atmosphere.
    I was reading some quotes from the "What's your grief" site, just thought I'd share a few:

    What is grief, if not love persevering?

    Perhaps the most painful kind of love is called grief.

    Grief is stretching bonds and redifining limits in order to create a space where you can love someone in their absence.

    "I wasn't done loving you yet".


    La Rose
     
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  8. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Rose, what a beautiful story. Linda told
    me that when she met me at a party, she
    looked at my eyes and smile, and knew I
    was the man she would marry. I didn't
    think marriage right away, but knew
    Linda was special and asked her out for
    our first date, the next day. We went to
    a blues club, bc we shared a love for
    music, like you & C. Unlike C., I was
    backward romantically. When I proposed
    to Linda, she had to tell me to get down
    on one knee, in the traditional manner.
    I had no ring. Duh. We laughed about it
    later . The fact is that I had no role model
    bc my parents were in a loveless marriage.
    So were hers. We didn't want either toxic
    couple, who didn't share in our love and
    happiness, at our wedding, and "eloped"
    in our 40s, 1st marriage for both of us.
    Both of us married later in life, bc we
    wanted it to be better than it was for our
    parents, and it was. Lou
     
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  9. HelenB

    HelenB Member

    Hi Tracy,
    My name is Helen and I just joined this group a few days ago. I lost my husband Bruce suddenly from a heart attack almost four years ago. When he first died, I was so lost, I had no idea how to navigate life. And I wished I could find a support group that would give me guidance. I am so glad that you found GIC so early in your grief journey. I want to share with you a couple of things in the hope that they might be of help to you.

    1. WTF - For me, at least the first six months after Bruce passed were what I now refer to as my WTF months because I simply couldn't intellectually process that my husband was dead. I was surprised when I ran out of groceries (he always did the grocery shopping) or when the trash cans overflowed (he was in charge of emptying the trash). Literally every day I had to tell myself that Bruce was dead. So, go easy on yourself. You are in a state of shock right now.
    2. Grief brain is real. You will be bad at making decisions or doing anything that requires much intellectual ability for a while. Tell co-workers to have your back. Don't make any big/important/permanent decisions.
    3. Grief body is real. Listen to your body. There were so many days that all I could do was lie on the couch because I felt like an elephant was sitting on my chest, constricting my breathing. I slept all the time. Your body has taken a beating, let it heal.

    A friend of mine who had lost her husband suddenly a few years before told me that she could not remember a thing from the two year period following her husband's death. So, I used that as a yardstick and, during the first two years following Bruce's death, I was pretty forgiving of myself when I didn't act "normal".
    I am not saying that, after two years you will be totally "over" your loss. I am four years in and still struggling. But the physical exhaustion and the mental fog is not as much as a factor anymore.

    Sending you virtual hugs as you navigate this journey. You are not walking alone.
    Helen
     
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  10. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Wow, Helen, in the very short time you've
    been with us, you have become a strong
    leader on GIC. In spite of your own
    mourning of 4 years for Bruce, like my 4
    years of mourning for Linda, you have
    managed to reach out to comfort Tracy,
    who hasn't been on here for a while, and
    may have moved on, but you tried. Your
    words are wise. The 2 year sad anniversary seems to be extra tough for
    everyone here, bc , as Jonathan
    Santlofer, in The Widower's Notebook, says,
    one has the shocking revelation that one's
    soulmate will NEVER come back to earth.
    I drank more, stayed out late, lost sleep,
    & became MORE depressed, with
    suicidal ideations, 2 yrs after Linda's
    death. I was very much alone, with few
    close friends, so I voluntarily went to the
    ER, where I waited for a room in a small
    psychiatric unit , with 8 other clients ,
    with different issues: manic depression
    (which I have, & which made my PTSD
    over Linda's death , much worse), drug &
    alcohol addiction, clinical depression, and
    extreme loneliness. I'm grateful for the compassionate counselors, nurses, and
    my peers, who I met with in daily groups,
    walks outside, and , in one on one talks.
    This was the same facility to which I
    went for 5 nights right after my wife's
    death, and again, after her small funeral.
    Bc Linda & I didn't have any friends, the
    only people at Linda's funeral, besides the
    young funeral director & a minister I didn't
    know, were a couple, who were heroin
    addicts who had befriended me at the
    psychiatric unit. I've lost touch with them,
    and wish them well on their tough
    journey, perhaps tougher than mine, bc
    I'm blessed with a roof over my head,
    food on the table , and new friends who
    care about me in my small, friendly
    town. Lou
     
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  11. HelenB

    HelenB Member

    Deb,
    I know you wrote this post a month ago, but I was compelled to respond when I read it. That intense feeling of loneliness is so hard! I too was a teacher before I retired. Every day when I left school, I would call Bruce to tell him I was on my way home and we would decide what to have for supper. After he died, walking out of the building to my car at the end of the day was the loneliest walk, knowing there was no one to call to tell that I was
    .... sorry, I was in the middle of writing when the dog, who is on my lap underneath my laptop, decided to change positions!

    as I was saying, the loneliest walk, knowing there was no one I could call to say I was on my way home. Also, on Friday's, we always did something special, even if the "something special" was to go to Denny's for pancakes. Fridays are hard. And now I am retired and live in Mexico. I still often feel acutely lonely and most especially when I travel to visit other areas of the country. Living is so hard when you cannot share it with your best friend. :(
    Helen
     
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  12. Deborah A.

    Deborah A. Well-Known Member

    Dear Helen,
    Fridays are difficult. It’s also difficult knowing that I have so many years ahead of me where I will feel this pain. I’m trying not to swallow it whole, but thank you so very, very much for reaching out to me! In this connection, I feel a sense of relief. I’m not alone. And it is a great comfort to know that love— unique, rare, beautiful and also ubiquitous and plentiful—is still sprinkled across the universe! Thank you so very much, Helen! ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
     
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  13. Deborah A.

    Deborah A. Well-Known Member

    Hello everyone—this feels so true for me:

    As for grief, you'll find that it comes in waves. When the ship is first wrecked, you’re drowning with wreckage all around you. Everything floating around you reminds you of the beauty and the magnificence of the ship that was and is no more. And all you can do is float. You find some piece of the wreckage and you hang on for a while. Maybe it's something physical. Maybe it's a happy memory or a photograph. Maybe it's a person who is also floating. For a while, all you can do is float. Stay alive.
    In the beginning, the waves are 100 hundred feet tall and they crash over you without mercy. They come 10 seconds apart and don't even give you time to catch your breath. All you can do is hang on and float. After a while, maybe weeks, maybe months, you'll find that the waves are still a hundred feet tall but they come further apart and when they come, they still crash all over you and wipe you out. But, in between, you can breathe and you can function. You never know what's going to trigger the grief. It might be a song or a picture. A street intersection. The smell of a cup of coffee. It can be just about anything. And the wave comes crashing. But in between the waves, there is life.

    Somewhere down the line, and it's different for everyone, you find that the waves are only 80 feet tall or 50 feet tall. And while they still come, they come further apart and you can see them coming. An anniversary, a birthday, or Christmas, or landing at O'Hare International, you can see it coming for the most part and you prepare yourself. And when it washes over you, you know that somehow you will, again, come out the other side soaking wet, sputtering, still hanging on to some tiny piece of wreckage, but you'll come out.

    Take it from an old guy. The waves never stop coming. And somehow you don't really want them to. But you learn that you'll survive them. And other waves will come and you'll survive them, too. If you're lucky you'll have lots of scars from lots of loves. And lots of shipwrecks.”
     
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  14. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Deb, your grief is like the waves analogy ,
    has been explored by both Bernadine
    ("Countess Joy") in Oregon, and by me,
    on the northern coast of Massachusetts.
    I ponder the changing tides every day,
    and they often reflect my mood. I was
    confused when you referred to an
    "old guy". Though considered a "senior"
    myself, I refuse to wear a number on
    my head, and want to be young at
    heart. Lou
     
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  15. Deborah A.

    Deborah A. Well-Known Member

    Sorry for the confusion. I’m quoting something that I read earlier in my grief.
     
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  16. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    That's what I thought, Deb. I went out
    dancing, late, the 2nd Friday night in a
    row. This is new for me --- way past my
    bedtime. It's 1:30am here in Ma. To all
    TGW, pleasant dreams.....Lou
     
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  17. Rose69

    Rose69 Well-Known Member

    Helen, reading your post has given me comfort and hope, I have felt exactly the same as your friend. These last two years I have been living in fog, I don't remember anything, as if I've been interpreting a role in a film. Everything's a blur, as if time has stopped and these twenty-seven months are just a continuation of THAT day when my life was shattered to pieces, and I'm still 'wondering' around in a tempest that insists on tormenting me. I relate to you about not acting 'normal', I don't even recognize myself anymore. We were all so used to being "one person" with our soulmates, and now we're left with this irreplaceable space in our hearts and minds.
    I'm glad you're staying with us, the best thing I've ever done for my 'healing' is join GIC. We are really an army, supporting one another in this battle, in every way.
    Rose.
    Sending you strength, we will all get through this together.
     
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  18. Deborah A.

    Deborah A. Well-Known Member

    You are showing all of us how to move forward. It’s never easy, but you are our role model!
     
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  19. HelenB

    HelenB Member

    Deb,
    What you said about having so many years ahead of you is so true! I often feel like I have no desire to go on. I have a strong faith and believe that I will be with my beloved Bruce in the afterlife. I can't wait! But I still have my children and they also suffered a great loss when Bruce died. I think that if something happened to me, it would completely devastate them. So, I soldier on for them. Helen
     
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  20. HelenB

    HelenB Member

    Lou,
    Good for you!
    Helen
     
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