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Discussion in 'Loss of Spouse' started by NancyD, Feb 25, 2022.

  1. Countess Joy

    Countess Joy Well-Known Member

    “The only person in the whole world who was so much like me.”
    Oh Nancy, I feel that deeply.
     
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  2. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Nancy, woke up just now, 2:30am, my
    time, from weird dreams, so I checked GIC,
    & was pleased to see you on here. I am so
    glad you stayed with us. I knew you would,
    but that it would take time for you to
    respond. Thank you so much for sharing
    William's name. It is a brave thing to do.
    I like it when my friends here, like Deb,
    refer to Linda, rather than my wife, which
    is less personal. I can't go back to sleep
    right away,so I'm going to sit at a table &
    have a snack, before going back to bed.
    I hope you are able to have a regular
    sleeping, eating. & exercise schedule. I'm
    happy that spring is almost here after a
    long winter of cold, getting dark early,
    & the occasional snowstorm, which
    prevented me from walking outside. I'm
    looking forward to "talking" with you
    again, Nancy. Lou
     
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  3. NancyD

    NancyD Member

    Gary, I just googled "six needs of reconciliation for the mourner". I appreciate the information. I am on day 13 of losing William and am just numb. My home seems so empty without him. When I am with family everyone is more than supportive but no one really wants to say too much. We have all been in shock given like your wife, his death was suddent and unexpected. And he died in front of me and my adult son. My son (William was a stepdad) had to put a stop to them trying to revive him for the fifth time as they had already broken ribs trying to revive him. I just can't believe my 6'3" wonderful husband who filled a room up is gone. I feel like a two-year-old wanting to have a tantrum since this is all so unfair. We all survive. Learning to live without someone you planned to spend the rest of your life with is a loss that nothing can fill up again. Nancy
     
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  4. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Nancy,when my wife, Linda died suddenly
    in front of me, it took me months with a
    grief therapist to get that last horrific
    image of her, out of my mind. I also
    had tremendous anguish & guilt that
    I didn't act fast enough to "save" her
    (which was impossible). I would dream
    that Linda was next to me, & I would ask
    her a question. When there was no
    answer, I said, "f**k, she's dead" and
    would cry. I don't have those dreams now,
    fortunately. But, occasionally, I have a
    "hug dream" in which I'm hugging Linda,
    but when I wake up, I'm hugging myself &
    I curse. I went as far as I could with the
    grief therapist. She suggested GIC where
    I feel free to rage, cry, and throw a
    "tantrum", as you said. Nobody wants to
    hear about my mourning for Linda,
    except my good friends on GIC. Lou
     
  5. Gary166

    Gary166 Guest

    Nancy I am glad to see your posts. It takes a lot of courage to talk about losing William. I was Cheryl’s first responder after hearing 3 erratic snores come from her bedroom. I performed CPR on Cheryl 10 minutes under the direction of the 911 operator. A deputy came with a defibrillator followed by 4 firemen with oxygen and 6 EMTs. One hour and 13 minutes after I made the 911 call Cheryl was pronounced dead. I was asked if I wanted to say goodbye to Cheryl now or wait till we all leave? After saying goodbye one of the EMTs got a pulse. Cheryl was rushed to the hospital and died 2 days later. I was in horrific shock for 2 months. We understand how you feel. Cheryl and I met 10 years ago and became very much in love with each other. Cheryl is my soulmate just as William is to you. I couldn’t have had a computer find a better person for me than Cheryl. None of us will ever be the same after losing our spouses. I’m surviving by living in an imaginary world without being intoxicated. I have had signs Cheryl is near me. I walked 2 nature preserves yesterday. I thought I saw Cheryl sitting at the top of a hill in her yellow jacket. I remembered Cheryl taking hundreds of photos of wild flowers at the other preserve. Stay as healthy as you possibly can. Rest. Don’t forget to take your meds. Mourn and know you are healing in the process. Be very gentle and kind to yourself. Read the book Permission to Mourn by Tom Zuba. I’ve been outside 3 days in a row for 6 hours each day. Nature has a great healing power. Sometimes our battle cry is stumble forward. You are a warrior among warriors. You are not alone. Gary
     
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  6. NancyD

    NancyD Member

    Bernadine, thank you for the kind words of support. Losing someone is awful. When it's sudden, no one is prepared.
     
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  7. cjpines

    cjpines Well-Known Member

    Nancy, I know it's so sudden for you and I remember back when Jack died 1 and 4 months ago. Now it's so funny in a way. I see him coming down the hall and I speak to him, I see him coming into the kitchen and I speak to him. I can see his body almost like he's still here. I go up and hug him and talk with him. Am I going crazy, nope, just missing him so much. I know he will never come home. I guess this is the way to keep him alive in our house to visualize him walking around here, telling him my day and knowing and looking forward to being with him again.
    We're supposed to gain a "new" life for us, but what shall it be???? Always, blessing to you, Karen
     
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  8. cjpines

    cjpines Well-Known Member

    Nancy, sudden is awful and not prepared. I guess it makes a difference as to knowing a love one is terminal and time to say goodbyes. I had time with Jack for everyone to come and say good byes and he liked that too. My heart goes out to you so very much of a sudden death. It's we who suffer not William. Feel blessed for that. Karen
     
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  9. NancyD

    NancyD Member

    Thank you, Karen! A tough road to walk.
     
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  10. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Nancy,

    Unfortunately, the ER physician (I'm being very polite, by even calling him a doctor!!!, TUTTAM!!!) wrote Bob off the minute he was brought into the emergency entrance. The very small, poorly equipped local hospital is basically just a "doc in the box," as my very closest friend from "home," refers to walk in clinics, fine if you need antibiotics to clear an ear infection, sinus infection, etc.etc. etc. but not able to provide care for anything above the most basic level.

    Sadly, Bob had been brought into the local hospital by ambulance many times before. I always had to fight as hard as I could, but with the exception of only one other time, was always able to get whoever was the ER physician on call, to call an ambulance to transport Bob to the only hospital in the state, about 1-2.5 hours away by car, but much faster by ambulance, where Bob had a team of medical specialists (one for just about every body part by the time he died). It is a very large teaching hospital, equipped with all the latest medical equipment and ranks the highest in our state for just about every specialty.

    Backing way up, the reason I mentioned this now, is because the local hospital had most of Bob's medical records, and knew that he had suffered a major heart attack on February 3, 2009, and had one stent. They also knew, for many reasons, Bob couldn't survive a second heart attack. The symptoms he was wheeled in with, that last night of his life, could have had something to do with his heart. The ER doc DID NOT!!! have him hooked up to a heart monitor. It took several hours before they hooked him up to an IV to give him fluids, although some of his symptoms probably had to do with him being dehydrated. There is lots more to this story!!!, TUTTAM!!! The bottom line is I told the ER physician to check his records, that he had a serious heart condition and also that his electrolytes were probably off, and I thought he was dehydrated.

    He had been discharged from an acute rehab facility on Friday, the day before he was wheeled into the local ER for the last time. While he was at the acute rehab, I suspected his sodium level was too low, the doctor had it checked once at the beginning of his week long stay, and it was low. However, she said it wasn't low enough to warrant a change in meds. I explained to her that Bob's nephrologist would want Bob to take additional sodium bicarbonate tabs to increase his sodium level. I begged her to call Bob's nephrologist, but she didn't. She told me she would have Bob's sodium levels rechecked prior to discharge, but I found out when I went to pick him up, that she didn't follow through with this. I told this to the ER doctor. I asked the ER physician to please!!! do blood work to check Bob's sodium level. This was NEVER!!! done.

    Finally, after many hours of begging and pleading with the medical staff to get an ambulance to transport Bob to the teaching hospital, telling them as nicely and politely as I could that while I was grateful the hospital is in our community, they do not have any specialists on staff who can treat Bob. No surprise... they already knew this!!! No one would listen to me until it was way too late. Bob after being treated horribly, not even given an extra blanket or pillow, he was freezing!!!, too weak to keep himself from slipping off of the stretcher that he had been on for hours, me having to keep running into the hallway to have someone get him back on the stretcher before he fell on the floor, begging for an extra blanket, an extra pillow for him, no one bringing them...

    After being there many hours, crucial tests not being done, not having been hooked up to a heart monitor, Bob told me he was having chest pains. I told him I loved him, he said, "I know you do." I ran into the hallway, screaming as loudly as I could for someone to PLEASE!!! get into my husband's room ASAP!!!, he was having chest pains. After I was forced out of the room, the ER doctor told me that Bob was having a major heart attack and that it was too late for him to call an ambulance, that if the weather conditions had been better, he would have called for a helicopter to transport him to the teaching hospital. Instead, he called an ambulance to bring him to another hospital, slightly larger than the local one, but still ill equipped to handle Bob's complex medical needs.

    It took so long for the ambulance to arrive, that even the ER doctor had a nurse call to make sure it was on it's way. When the EMT's wheeled in a stretcher to transport Bob, they couldn't take him out of the local hospital because he was too unstable. He had to be stabilized first. He died, after having every available medical person available in the local hospital and the EMTs who came to transport him, attempt to save him. Too little too late!!!, TUTTAM!!!

    There is so much more to this story... I believe we don't have a choice as to when we're going to die. It is in God's hands and we have to trust God will take us at exactly the right moment. (Tom Zuba in "Permission To Mourn," I'm still trying to wrap my mind around this concept.) However, if the attending ER physician had called an ambulance when Bob first arrived, even if the specialists at the large teaching hospital couldn't save his life, they would have made sure he was made as comfortable as he could possibly be, they would have treated him with dignity and respect, the way every single human being deserves to be treated, especially when dying...

    My dog was treated better when we had to bring her to an ER veterinary hospital than Bob was. My dog had a very peaceful death, surrounded by those who loved her most, and her very favorite veterinarian. My dog's death, if you can call death "beautiful," was not only "beautiful," but very peaceful, though it was heartbreaking. Bob's death was anything BUT!!! "beautiful," peaceful... Bob didn't deserve to die the way he did!!!, TUTTAM!!! NO ONE should have to die the way Bob did!!!,TUTTAM!!!

    It is disgraceful that in our country, there are medical people who are either "burnt" out from their professions, or who look at their positions as just a way to bring home the "bacon."

    So sorry... I got carried away the words just seemed to type themselves. I guess I still have a long way to go... I'm not able to forgive that local ER physician or the medical staff who had so little regard for my husband, especially at the end of his life, who DID NOT!!! how much a human being was suffering. I am certain NOT!!! one of them, would want someone who they loved with all their hearts, to be treated even half as badly as they treated my husband.

    If you made it this far, thank you for "listening." I thought I was done "talking" about this... It surprised me, how much I needed to still "talk" about this, the most heartbreaking, miserable night/early morning, in my life.

    As always, sending you hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  11. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Deb, I won't reply to your very sad post,
    but want you to know that I'm back on
    GIC. I was having technical difficulties,
    but, I didn't panic & tried another way.
    GIC is so vital for my wellbeing. Lou
     
  12. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Karen, I don't speak to Linda, like you
    do with Jack. In that sense, I'm more like
    Jonathan, in the The Widower's Notebook.
    He knows Joy will never come back, in a
    physical sense, so he just can't do it. However, I have a 92 year old friend,
    Roger,whose wife died after 67 years of
    marriage. He talks to a framed photo of
    his wife every morning. He has also
    dreamt about her, like I have about Linda.
    Some days are better than others. With
    spring approaching, with warmer temps,
    I plan to be walking outside in nature,
    after being cooped up with dark, sad
    thoughts all winter. I am grateful to feel
    healthy again, & even happier,as Linda
    wanted for me. Lou
     
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  13. NancyD

    NancyD Member

    Thanks for sharing, Deb. Today I picked up his ashes. All of this journey just sucks. There are no words for such a loss.
     
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  14. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Lou,

    I'm so glad you're back on GIC!!! I remember last fall... It absolutely SUCKED!!!, TU!!! (left the rest out, lol...)

    Hope you had a good day and tonight is off to a good start...

    As always, sending you hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  15. NancyD

    NancyD Member

    Deb, I felt that the doctors wrote William off right away also. They made it clear there was no point keeping him alive and even then I thought there was hope. I appreciate you sharing.
     
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  16. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Thank you so much, Deb. As I just told
    Robin, I didn't panic, & calmly figured out
    another way to get back on GIC. Linda
    once told me that I couldn't "break " the
    Internet, & not be so fearful. I miss her
    advice & expertise, as well as her smile &
    loving arms. As I told Karen, I felt a real
    fatigue from grief over Linda & the
    drop in temp today, by 20 degrees. The
    wind went right through me. I came
    home depressed,& took a 3pm nap. I told
    my NP about my fatigue & need to take
    more naps. She said there were a variety of
    factors: possible lingering effect from
    COVID, depression over the yo yo temps,
    from a pleasant sunny 50s on Sunday,
    seeing my friends, to a cold winter day
    today, and, of course,the not so amusing
    amusement park ride ( as Gary said) with
    Mr. Grief ( Karen's invention). Lou
     
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  17. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Nancy, may I ask what you will do with
    William's ashes? The funeral director
    showed me a variety of memorials in
    which to place Linda's ashes. I chose one,
    which I have on the top of my bureau.
    After over 3 years since Linda's death, I
    don't look at it every day, but am
    comforted that she is with me. Lou
     
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  18. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Lou,

    Sadly, Mr. Grief has a way of making us all so over the top exhausted..., totally drained both emotionally and physically... Add in the absolutely miserable!!!, TU!!! winter you had..., having to deal with all the nasty lingering symptoms of COVID..., and it makes so much sense why you felt depressed and needed an afternoon nap. It must have SUCKED!!! BIG!!!, TIME!!, TUTTAM!!!, not having Linda physically with you, to help take care of you, keep you company, while you were so sick. I'm sure it just made you miss her that much more... I can't even begin to imagine being that sick, without Bob here with me... It SUCKS!!!

    I hope Mr. Grief decides to let you ride much higher up on his very twisted roller coaster ride of emotions tomorrow... I hope you have many reasons to LMSO tomorrow...

    As always, sending you lots of hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  19. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Nancy,

    I'm so very sorry!!! the doctors wrote William off right away too... My heart goes out to you... It is truly the absolute worst feeling in the entire world..., not being able to do anything to help the one true love of your life, feeling so helpless, so out of control... Giving you the biggest virtual hug ever... It SUCKS!!!

    Sending lots and lots of extra hugs your way, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  20. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Deb, I didn't read your heartbreaking
    story about your last agonizing days with
    Bob, with those miserable so called
    medical " professionals" until tonight,
    bc I was depressed about Linda this
    afternoon, & dealt with it by taking a long
    nap. You & I have to remember that we
    did what we could to "save" Bob and
    Linda, but as Zuba said, it was their time
    to "come home". God Bless you, Deb, for
    bringing comfort to others, including me,
    on GIC. We are truly TGW. Lou
     
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