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Discussion in 'Loss of Spouse' started by RickB, Oct 5, 2021.

  1. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Your "total understatement!!!" always
    makes me laugh. It's like classic lines,
    like Rodney Dangerfield's "I get no
    respect!". His comedy routines would
    make Johnny Carson double over in
    laughter! Lou
     
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  2. eyepilot13

    eyepilot13 Well-Known Member

    Wow Lou! I look forward to these posts at the beginning of each day. For me morning is the worst. By night my meds take effect more. I don't want to to do ANYTHING lately. Morning is the worst for me feels so desolate after sleep of dreams. (she is alive!) Last night was very hard and lonely. Yousee I'm needing to sell this house and a setBack this week really downed me on Tuesday-Wednesday. I just want out of here so I can start a 'new' life. I need to find out who I am now. I do not like much of anything anymore. If I do something itz cuz I force myself to do it. I am so TIRED of this. I do not know anyone. There is no place to go nothing to do. I'm so tired from forcing myself to do Stuff. Hope I hear from you today., Of course U have the dreaded dialysis too.
     
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  3. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Lou,

    As I always used to tell my children when they were growing up, the reason why the world is such an interesting place is because each one of us is unique, special in his or her own way... It's almost like the illness itself, in spite of all the pain and suffering it causes, is also responsible for giving those who are affected by it, the talent to create all those paintings, books, and songs, that bring joy into our lives, as well as making us think about, and question our existence.

    Backing up just a bit, it's so sad that it's taken the world way too long to realize that having bipolar disorder is not a weakness, is not something to be ashamed of... Knowing that you have bipolar disorder, although I can't even begin to imagine what it's truly like, makes me realize that you're an even stronger person than I first thought. While going through the worst heartache in your entire life, you also had to deal with the pain, and (I'm guessing here because I only know about bipolar disorder from things I've read) out of control feelings, mood swings, that bipolar disorder causes. It must have been extra difficult because from what you just said, it's important for you to keep to a regular schedule, and with Linda being so sick, I'm almost certain that wasn't possible.

    I just got an alert that I have another message from you, so ending this.

    Be back soon...

    As always sending you hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  4. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Lou,

    Rodney Dangerfield was the best!!! Thanks for getting me to laugh again!!!

    As always, sending you hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  5. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    George,

    I read your message to Lou. I'm so sorry you're struggling so much. I HATE!!! going to sleep sometimes, because I'm always afraid I'm going to have a dream that Bob is still here, with me. I woke up way too many times last night, and woke up fried this morning, the same way I went to bed last night. I can't even begin to imagine how much more difficult this is for you, with having to go to dialysis, and now, needing to sell your house. I want to move, but as of right now, I'm not sure where I want to spend the rest of my life. I can't even begin to imagine having to make such a big decision so soon after Bob's death... I hope you're able to find a place you want to move to, that you'll be happy calling "home."

    Like you, I'm searching for my purpose in life again. I believe that part of the reason I'm still here, is to help others who have lost someone who they loved, and still love with all their hearts, the best I can. I've always wanted to train a therapy dog, and bring him/her to nursing homes, hospitals, schools... I think this might be part of my purpose for still being here. There are so many lonely people in nursing homes who don't have frequent visitors. George wants to be a hospice volunteer. It made me wonder if I had a therapy dog, if I might be able to take him/her to hospices too. I've always enjoyed writing, but feel like all the creative energy has been zapped right out of me. Maybe someday I'll be able to write again. Starting to ramble and I have things I have to do, so stopping here.

    I hope you're able to nap during dialysis today... I can't even begin to imagine how much it SUCKS!!!

    As always, sending you hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  6. eyepilot13

    eyepilot13 Well-Known Member

    Deb!
    I so appreciate your reaching out! I know it is "the wrong thing to do!" to sell a house so soon but there are many considerations not all financial but that's the biggest one.
    If I could just read for two hours... doze for two hours at D I'd be pleased. It is so hard to come home after. Valerie would always make sure the door was unlocked and greet me with her smile. I miss her smile!
    I think the worst thing for me is not being interested in anything. My rational mind knows this is normal and all but I hate not having much to look forward to. I'd like to help others. Everything is either too slow or too fast.

    Lottsa biggest hugs and love!
     
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  7. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    George,

    Although most people say it's not a good idea to make any big changes in your life for the first year, I don't think there is a right or wrong answer. I think every person has to weigh all the pros and cons in his/her life, all of the factors that go into making a big decision, knowing whatever choice is made, will have lifelong consequences. I hope you have a choice, but if financial issues are the biggest reason, it might make selling your house necessary, not even taking into consideration the other reasons.

    From the moment Bob passed away, I felt like I needed to sell my house, make a fresh start somewhere. I still feel this way, almost six months later (October 11th is the sixth month anniversary of his death.) The horrible memories of all the bad things that happened from the beginning of 2018 forward, the most painful memories from the night I had to call an ambulance for Bob for the final time, plus everything in this house reminds me of Bob. I "see" him everywhere I look.

    This entire state reminds me of him. I feel like I need to make a fresh start, somewhere I'll have new memories, that Bob is no longer a part of. I never will forget him, he'll always be the one true love of my life. I know his spirit will always be with me. However, I know I need to create a new life for myself, that I can't live in the past forever. I'm not sure I'll be able to do this here.

    I'm struggling big time because in 35 years, this will be the second biggest decision I will have to make without Bob. A very big part of me is homesick. I want to return to where my friends are, where I grew up, and spent most of my life. Even though I now hate the cold, don't want to deal with snow any longer, I miss the change of seasons. I prefer the New England coastline to any of the coastal areas in SC. While the coastline here is so different, but just as beautiful, it isn't "home." However, if I move back "home," it'll never be the same without Bob. So many of the best times in my life were spent here with Bob. All of my memories are now bittersweet, "happy mixed with sad," as Robin would say. I'm not sure if I'll be able to make a fresh start here either. As of this moment, I know I'm too emotionally fragile to even consider going back for a visit. I know that I have to be strong enough to visit, before I can make a decision about where I want to spend the rest of my life. Then as I already mentioned, there is another part of me that that thinks I need to make a fresh start somewhere else. I know it's impossible, but I need Bob to help me make this decision. I have a box of tissues in front of me while I'm "talking" to you.

    For me, time seems to stand still and go by quickly all at once. Days can feel endless, but sometimes when I'm home and not doing much of anything, I'm surprised to check the time and find out how late it is. I find that since Bob's death, it takes me way longer to do the the simplest things. I feel like I have that widow foggy brain thing to the max. I used to love to read, but now, the only books I want to read are books on grieving. BTW, I'm so glad you were able to get a copy of Jonathan Santlofer's book. I still haven't finished it, but am getting ready to curl up on the couch with my copy of it soon.

    I hope you find at least one reason to smile today...

    As always, sending you hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  8. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    George, I KNOW you will be happier
    when you move to a new place & start
    anew. After Linda died to a small,
    friendly town. I was broken & lonely,
    but like Jonathan, went out every night
    to the local bar & met locals & tourists
    from all over the U.S. I drank for a
    year, which made me more depressed.
    As I told Deb & Gary, I stopped on Nov 6,
    2019.I still go to the Shack bar, when the
    spirit moves, & love the socialization ,
    without the alcohol. A bonus is that
    this place was new, so Linda never
    went to this bar, or knew any of these
    people. George, I cry every morning,
    but get better as the day goes on. I think
    you found that to be true when you
    ventured out to the library & got
    Jonathan's book. "See you later",Lou
     
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  9. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Correction: My thoughts are moving faster
    than my fingers. I meant:After Linda died,
    I MOVED to a small, friendly town. Lou
     
  10. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Deb, I just finished "talking" with George &
    agree with your advice to him. I have a
    suggestion for you. Move. You can always
    rent up north & visit the coastline. Yes,
    I do see some of the places Linda & I went,
    but as I told George, I also go to new
    places, like the Shack bar & see people
    Linda never met. Wouldn't it be a
    miracle from God that you come to my
    area, and I show you around to the
    places I always talk about, & introduce
    you to my friends ! Lou
     
  11. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Lou,

    The only thing I know for sure, is how unsure I am about where I want to spend the rest of my life. All I know is that I really want/need to spend the rest of my life near the ocean. I think you said it best, when you told me towards the end of this week, that "the ocean is in my soul, just like it's in yours." (I might not have remembered the exact way you said it, but if this isn't it, it's pretty close to it.)

    I'm not sure if renting would be a doable option for me financially, unless I could get a short term rental. I think it's a great idea because I would be able to get to know an area really well first, or if I decided to rent near "home," it would give me the opportunity to find out if I could be happy where there are so many memories of my past life, before having to make a decision that's going to have an enormous impact on the rest of my life. As usual, whenever I have a big decision to make, I talk to Bob as though he was still here. I want/need his advice so much... But, and this is another one of those BIG buts, I know it would make him very happy if I spent the rest of my life near the ocean.

    As I said to George earlier today, I know that when I'm emotionally strong enough, I need to visit "home," before making any decisions. I'm from the southeastern part of the state, not that long of a drive from your town, so I have a feeling that we'll be able to get together in the future. It would be nice to be able to meet you, see the places you hang out, and get to meet your friends (I'm beginning to feel like I know some of them already!) This would be a definite first for me!!! I never would have imagined in a zillion years that I would make friends in an online support group... Life is so full of surprises, total understatement!!!
    Sleep well.

    As always, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  12. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Rick, sorry I didn't answer your long, very
    sad account, to my good friend, Deb. I know exactly the feeling of having "way
    too much time on my hands" now, & not
    knowing what to do with myself now that
    I'm not caring for Linda anymore. I was in
    a state of shock, when Linda collapsed in
    her room in the rehab/nursing home, right in front of me, then died, soon after from
    a pulmonary embolism. Forgive me I've
    told you this before. Part of mourning,
    as Tom Zuba says, in his book, Permission
    to Mourn, is to repeat the story of your
    spouse's death. I had a purpose when I
    woke up in the morning: to visit Linda
    every day, make sure she had plenty of
    water ANF ginger ale, for her stomach.
    The food was terrible, and most of the
    time, she wouldn't eat it. We would get
    pizza, or Chinese food, delivered, like many of the other residents did. I started
    walking across the street to an English
    Tea Room to get breakfasts ( tea, scones,
    little sandwiches) and bring them back
    to Linda's room, so we could eat together,
    while watching TV, to pretend things were
    normal. Both of us believed Linda was
    strong enough to "beat" her breast cancer
    and could walk ( with PT) without a
    walker. It doesn't always work that way.
    Tom has a passage about the deaths of his
    wife & 2 of his children that they had
    done what they set out to do, and it was
    time for their physical bodies to leave this
    earth. I gradually learned to be kind to
    myself and go to an outdoor, friendly
    breakfast place, where the husband &
    wife would generously refill our coffee
    mugs. It was a great way to start the day,
    and I try to be there at 7:30 every am,
    before there's a line. I didn't know anyone
    when I moved to my small town, but
    that changed fast, when I went this place,
    and to the Shack bar for dinner. For a year after Linda died, I drank vodka, cranberry
    juice, soda, and a lime, which was a
    popular drink. I started drinking more,
    staying out late, not sleeping well, getting
    the flu TWICE, in Oct & Nov, 2019, and
    getting so depressed that I had to go to the
    ER, and then, voluntarily to a small
    psychiatric unit for 5 nights. The unit had
    nine beds. Every morning after breakfast,
    we would go to a counselor led meeting.
    Later. we had supervised walks outside.
    My psychiatric nurse practioner /grief
    counselor called me and asked if I would
    consider stopping drinking. As I told Deb,
    Gary, George, and others here, I did
    stop, upon discharge.My last alcoholic
    drink was on Nov 6, 2019, about a year
    after Linda's death. I still wanted to see
    my friends at the bar, & asked the 2
    bartenders,on my favorite night, Friday,
    to eliminate the vodka. I have felt better
    physically, anf mentally. I still cry in my
    apartment in the morning,before I walk
    outside, but at least I don't cry at the bar
    like I did before. When Linda became ill,
    she made me promise to be happy if
    anything happened to her. She then
    shocked me by saying she didn't want to
    be alone, but to find another woman. I
    am trying to be among people & achieve
    some level of happiness, but I'm not
    actively seeking a woman right now. If
    the time is right, a woman, probably a
    daytripper from the city, may visit my
    small, friendly seaside town. But, I
    would still want the quiet of my place,
    and the freedom to come & go. I pray
    to God, in gratitude, for being alive,and
    I feel blessed to be able to gaze at the
    changing tides of the ocean every morning. My grief comes in waves,very
    much like the sea. Linda requested that
    she be cremated, & that I didn't send her
    picture to our local newspaper. She
    wanted a small, private funeral, and I
    obeyed her wishes. I chose a block, for
    her memorial urn. It had her name on it,
    with no birth or death date, bc I wanted
    her spirit to be with me forever. The
    memorial ( I prefer to call it that, rather
    than her ashes) is on my bureau whenever
    I want to see it. I'm glad now that I will not
    have to go to a cemetery in the cold
    winter.I hope you can find the strength,
    with God's guidance, to take Denise's urn
    out of the closet. Her spirit belongs with
    you. God Bless. Lou
     
  13. Patti 61

    Patti 61 Guest

    Hi Karen,just read your post
    to me, I will come back as soon
    as I am over WHATEVER, been
    a long time being this sick.
    Prayers therapy is helping
    your arm, that you and all
    others here are keeping well.
    Big hug, Blessings, Patti
     
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  14. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Deb, I went to bed early, as usual, after a full day. I had a surprise, a miracle from
    God, at noon today. I did something
    different than going to the Bean & Leaf
    on the Neck, for lunch. Like my favorite
    Seinfeld episode ( you can find it on You
    Tube, under "George, the opposite),
    George,the sadsack loser, who lives with
    his parents & is unemployed, decides to
    change his usual sandwich order, in front
    of his friends,at their diner. So begins a
    series of events which wouldn't. have
    happened if he hadn't stepped out of his
    comfort zone.So it is with us, Deb. I walked
    into a new place for lunch, & was
    surprised to see a music quartet. I
    recognized a. singer/guitarist, Gary, in a
    cowboy hat, with a Southern accent, in his
    motorized wheelchair. Back in August
    at acoustic festival in Millbrook Meadow,
    N & I went to hear different live bands.
    I started to talk with Gary. He told me he
    had lived in many places. I told him about
    Linda. The next thing I knew, he dedicated
    a song to Linda & me, invoking God &
    angels. I cried & thanked him. When I
    saw Gary yesterday, I said I thought God
    sent him to me again, and he nodded. His
    first song was about God's love. I cried
    again, & told him during a break. The band
    may play again tomorrow, and I plan to go.
    I finally replied to Rick's long,sad email
    about his life after the death of Denise.
    After I reply to your other email, I 'll go back to sleep. My heart skipped a beat when you said you might visit here &
    let me show you around. Karyn Arnold
    said that meeting someone in person
    from Grief in Common was a possibility.
    Lou
     
  15. cjpines

    cjpines Well-Known Member

    Deb, it's me Karen and I've been reading all your posts, you have mentioned many times about moving, where, when or not? I'm in the same situation. But, may I share my feelings with you on your situation and love for home? Well, I will. Your posts says you may want to move back home, but not sure about the memories. Good for you. The only way you will know is to go back for a visit, it's a long trip, but necessary before you make a decision.
    Deb, you are only into 6 months--way to early to decide anything. I'm learning to rest and trust my intuition. I don't know where I will be and there is no rush.

    My long friend said to me two days ago because she lost her husband years back and knows me and Jack. She said, "Don't worry about where you think you may want to move, don't worry about being in control of life because life will present it's self in ways you won't know.
    Okay, I hope this makes sense. Rest to us all, Karen
     
  16. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Good Sunday morning, Patti. It's always
    good to hear from you. You & Karen were
    among the first people I met on this
    wonderful, kind site. I cry every morning
    for Linda. Her birthday is on Wed, Oct 13.
    Then, I walk down to the sea, look out at
    the tides, and feel the presence of God.
    I pray, in gratitude, for being alive, and
    living in my small, friendly seaside town.
    I pray for you & Karen & others here to
    have a healthier & happier life. Lou
     
  17. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Karen,

    I value your opinion so much, and appreciate you sharing your feelings with me. This house is a constant reminder of all the pain and suffering Bob had to endure, of shattered dreams... I know, that at this point in time, I wouldn't be happy no matter where I was. I have lots of hard work ahead of me, as I'm struggling to work my way through this grieving process.

    I feel like I'm slipping into that dark hole again, one that I'm afraid if I end up at the bottom, I won't be able to climb back out of. Tomorrow is the sixth month anniversary of Bob's death. It feels like some sort of a milestone, like I should be farther along this miserable path than I am. Thinking about what you said, I realize I'm pushing myself too fast, too hard, there is no way I can "rush" the grieving process by trying to escape it. If I move too soon, it would only be a quick fix. It might make me feel better in the short run, but until I'm further along this miserable path, in the long run, I think it would only make things much worse. In reality, I have no idea what I want. The only thing I want is Bob back..., something that will never happen.

    I love the advice your friend gave to you!!! I think I've been trying to do the impossible, take control of my life at a time when I'm an emotional wreck. I HATE!!! feeling this out of control, this helpless... I'm trying so hard to hold it together, to keep moving forward. I think I'm being a bit too hard on myself. I need to work through this miserable process without irrationally (not even realizing I might be doing this until now, trying to put a deadline on it, by moving...) I need to cling onto the belief that "life will present itself in ways you won't know."

    I'm going to take a walk this morning, the first one in way too long a time, so even though there is so much more I want to say, I'm going to stop here for now. I'm going to think about this while I'm walking. I want to come back here later, "talk" to you some more. I'm not sure if what I said truly conveys what I'm feeling...

    Thanks so much for taking the time to reach out to me, and for "listening" to me vent, and for being here to help me pick up the pieces of my shattered life, especially when you're suffering just as much as I am.

    As always, sending you hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  18. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Oh, my God, Deb. I didn't see your
    message about my manic depression,
    until now, as I'm having breakfast at
    Two Little Birds Eatery, across from
    the beach. You are right that my manic
    depression magnified the trauma of
    Linda's sudden death. I confided in N,
    ( as well as Kim, Steven & Betsy) that I
    had a mental illness). N confided in me
    about his PTSD after coming home from
    Afganistan. You made me cry when you
    said I was stronger than you thought. I
    knew there was something wrong, when I
    was 28, fired from a job, drinking more,
    speeding through red lights, and getting
    into fights. I "turned myself in" to a
    police station, bc my Jekyll & Hyde
    personality scared me. I ended up in a
    psychiatric hospital. Back then, the stays
    were longer. I was finally given meds
    for the chemical imbalance in my brain.
    I also learned the value of speaking with
    a therapist, which made it more natural
    to meet with a psychiatric nurse practioner/ grief counselor when Linda
    died. The therapist had been a long time
    RN and knew what I needed. I never
    stopped my meds, but I didn't follow the
    advice of the psychiatrists not to drink. wanted to "take the edge off" and relax,
    but, overtime, that sabotaged my meds,
    bc alcohol is a depressant. My current
    therapist tells me that most of his older
    clients, with manic depression, are more
    mellow. I believe that's true for me,too.
    On my 1st date with Linda, at the House
    of Blues, I told her about my illness, bc
    I knew she was "the one". She didn't even
    blink an eye. Later, the husband of one of
    her work "friends" told her to run as fast
    as she could away from me. A nicer friend
    asked if she would run away if I had
    diabetes, which was ironic bc Linda had
    diabetes later, and I never would've
    thought to leave her. Thank you so much,
    Deb, for your wise & warm words this
    sunny Sunday morning. As I told George &
    Gary, my day usually gets better after my
    morning cry. I was a very lucky man to have Linda as my loving wife. She was the
    epitome of unconditional love. BTW,
    last night, I read an article in Reader's
    Digest, that a man of 70 decided to stay
    young & fit by "moving". He's absolutely
    right. It made me sad that Linda was in a
    vicious circle of gaining weight, not walking bc of bad knees from the extra
    weight, and her diabetes. She basically
    gave up, and believed she was "cursed" &
    doomed. It was heartbreaking to see.. .
    her become a sad old woman, in such a
    short time. Her only pleasure was
    watching movies & favorite programs on
    TV... Just now, as I was about to leave
    the restaurant, a boisterous, big
    local "regular" came in. We said hello.
    She said something to the owner that
    she "wasn't your average bear". I laughed
    & said it was one of my wife's expressions.I also told her my wife said
    I wasn't "beige"--" total understatement!!"
    She must have seen a sadness in my
    face, bc she asked if my wife was "still
    with us". When I said, no, she said she
    was so sorry. She referred to a former
    boyfriend, & that she was rushing to
    church. Next time, I will tell her my
    church is across the street by the sea. Lou
     
  19. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Deb, just read your very sad message to
    Karen. I want you to know that I'm
    standing at the top of that "dark hole",
    with a lifeline. I will not let go of the
    rope. I don't know what I would do
    without you. You have been an anchor
    for me in my hour of need. After your
    walk, I hope you can read my reply to
    you this morning about your kind words
    about my manic depression. Lou
     
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  20. Patti 61

    Patti 61 Guest

    Hi Deb, have been keeping you in
    prayer all that you are going
    through. I am only in briefly, came
    down with a virus of some sort.
    On the subject of moving, will
    do a later posting expressing
    ONLY MY personal experience
    on my decision that I made. I
    was glad to see Karen's post
    regarding this. Sending you
    Big hug and keeping you, all
    others here in my prayers.
    Blessings, Patti
     
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