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Discussion in 'Loss of Spouse' started by Ostick, Aug 14, 2022.

  1. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Rose, what comforting, wise words ( and
    gentle advice) to Ostick and to other GW
    like me. I forget whether you read The
    Widower's Notebook, a memoir, by
    Jonathan Santlofer, married 40 years to
    Joy, with one adult daughter. He's an
    artist, and has sketches of his family in the
    book. It is an honest, sometimes funny
    portrait of his family. He has some powerful chapters on some friends &
    family who either can't comfort him in his
    grief , refuse to talk about it, or just let him
    vent---and listen . All of we GW know that
    we would reach out bc we "get it". One
    quick anecdote that was a pleasant surprise to me. When COVID hit here in
    March, 2020, I was so angry that I was
    yelling at my grief counselor on the phone
    ( bc we couldn't meet in person). I said
    she just didn"t understand how lonely,
    depressed , and devastated I was , when my local bar had to close, and the owner
    couple didn't know when they could
    reopen. I was going there every Friday
    night to drink & laugh with my friends, who never met Linda. Ironically, I go to a
    much better cafe, with live music, and new
    friends, who are much less superficial and
    kind, than the old ones. I had resented a
    40 year old mother, who had managed a
    restaurant, and was kind to me, and would
    listen to me, at her lunch counter, when
    there were no customers. When Linda
    died, she didn't ask if she could go get
    groceries for me ( just one time!), and leave
    them in my hallway. All she texted was
    "stay positive", with a prayer sign. I texted
    back that she could never understand
    how my manic depression magnified the
    terror & rage I felt, to be extremely sad &
    lonely again. I also said that just saying,
    "stay positive", was condescending and
    unhelpful , and to knock it off. She
    never answered. The lunch place closed,
    and she disappeared. Last week, she ran
    toward me, in tears, hugged me,and
    explained why she hadn't texted. Her
    mother -in- law died unexpectedly from
    COVID, and her father was beside himself,
    in terror, and she couldn't help him at the
    time. I told her I felt so bad, bc I always
    thought she was compassionate to me,
    and in my manic depressive state, felt
    betrayed by her. Now, it was my turn to
    ask for forgiveness. I told my friend, who's
    like a daughter to me, and she said the
    chance moment ( or God given) was
    special. Lou
     
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  2. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Rose, woke up briefly at 4:30 am, my time, after a few hours of deep sleep, with the
    aid of a pain medicine, which helped
    relax me. so I could sleep. Like you and
    Robin, the first thing I do , is to to
    to reply to any posts directed to me.
    Thank you so much, Rose, for your
    concern for my health & happiness,
    like Linda did. Lou
     
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  3. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Robin, please read my ( long!) post to
    Rose, at almost 5am, my time. The 3 of us
    were playing leapfrog with our posts. Hope
    you went back to sleep. "Talk " later , as
    temporarily MIA Deb is fond of saying! Lou
     
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  4. RLC

    RLC Well-Known Member

    Leapfrog!! Made me smile! I hadn’t been asleep yet. But I do stay up late often. Had a long day and needed to unwind. I did get some sleep though. Woke up to a very cloudy day. My day was nothing like yours. But My daughter was suffering from what we thought were chigger bites. Later found out we don’t have chiggers here. But they became blistered and some hot to the touch. I told her we need the doctor to look at this. So we spend all evening at a walk in clinic. They don’t know what it is but gave her steroids to take. While we were there and a husband and wife came in. Very panicked. I heard her say her husband was having an allergic reaction to something. Was having trouble swallowing and breathing. He had a mask on so we didn’t realize until he was put in an ambulance that his face was very swollen. It felt so scary to see. This poor man suffering, his wife who uses a cane trying to care for him. My daughter and I became teary. We saw their closeness and felt his discomfort. As they went out everyone wished them well. But it made me so emotional. We prayed for them to be ok. So my evening just took me off guard and needed some unwind time.
    Lou, how are you feeling today? I’m happy you got some well needed sleep. Hope your day is prettier then mine. Robin
     
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  5. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Oh, crap, Your poor daughter, Robin.
    Hope steroids help really soon. Story
    about couple both scary & sad. I'm
    grateful to God that I'm OK today, thanks.
    Had a fear that I wouldn't wake up after
    anesthesia, which was irrational, bc I
    never had a problem before. I also
    worried about pain. but it was just dull,
    not sharp. Took Tylenol, ate lightly, and
    took only one small dose of Oxycodone
    to relax, in order to sleep at night. I'm
    supposed to walk, drink a lot of water, &
    eat foods with fiber, incl. salads.My friend,
    who's my age, & has a cane, suggested one
    for me, for balance. I'm using Linda's and
    I feel her spirit within me. Lou
     
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  6. cjpines

    cjpines Well-Known Member

    I got it, Ate instead of Are. But, you just had surgery, so I'm not going to be hard on you.
    I'm so happy you are feeling well and can go out and have some fun. Good news. K
     
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  7. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the Karen pardon! As you
    can see from my long reply to Robin
    today, I'm using Linda's cane---for balance.
    Gary's Native American cane is proudly
    displayed in my living room, and I look at it, in his honor, every day. Lou
     
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  9. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Bernadine! I had seen that
    Napolean quote. I identify with him in
    2 ways: I'm short ( ! ), and I crowned
    myself "Mayor" of the Neck ( our
    boardwalk of shops, art galleries, and
    restaurants). I've become an unpaid PR
    guy, who knows all the small business
    owners. I greet tourists and suggest places
    for them to go. Linda would be amazed ,
    bc she was more of an extrovert. Her
    spirit is within me. When you read my
    talks with Karen, Robin, and Rose, you
    will see that I'm using her cane, bc I'm
    on extra meds from visit to hospital
    yesterday. It is temporary, and helps with
    my balance. Lou
     
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  10. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    P.S., Karen. The friend who drove me to,
    the hospital, & suggested a cane, until I feel
    more confident, also said he could cut
    down Gary's Native American cane ( which
    Is too tall for me), as well. L
     
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  11. cjpines

    cjpines Well-Known Member

    Lou, it's 9Pm here and you will get this in the am or in the middle of the night as you seem to come awake. Take it easy today. You just had surgery and it has to heal and will take sometime even though you feel fine now. I'm thinking about you and glad Gary's cane will be shortened for you, meantime your using Linda's. So sweet. Good night here and Good morning there. K
     
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  12. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Love you for caring about me, Karen.
    It was great to have phone at hospital.
    During the waiting periods, I could
    "talk" with TGW, like you, and feel better.
    I'm in contact with Deb, and she cracks me
    up . I took an Oxycodone early tonight, &
    went out like a light. I'm careful, & don't
    lift things, but I'm outside, walking with
    Linda's cane.I feel fortunate, and was whistling My Way, by Sinatra, on my
    walk down Main St. Lou
     
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  13. Rose69

    Rose69 Well-Known Member

    Lou, first of all, thank you for the way you praised my earlier post to Ostick, I hope we will hear from him again.
    I'm so happy yo hear you're recovering well, I admire you for your "get up and go" method. That's the way, you're doing the right thing using your Linda's cane, going for long walks. When you say how you have become a free PR man to your town, you remind me of a story my daughter told me the other day. She and her group of friends had visited a nearby town they'd never seen before, and she described how pretty it was and how a couple of kind gentlemen had started chatting to them, explaining all about the town, the history, and all the places they should see. She had been so touched by these kind, friendly, warm, enthusiastic gentlemen and how they had loved conversing with them. You sound just like that.
    I was moved by the story of the lady restaurant owner, but I'm glad that you've had the chance to clear up your misunderstandings.
    Keep well.

    Robin, I was also touched by that story of the couple you met in hospital. I understand when you said you and your daughter got teary, I probably would have done the same. I find that nowadays, I start crying easily, at anything, didn't used to be like that.
    I know how frustrating and worrying it must be, seeing your daughter suddenly finding herself covered in mysterious blisters, not knowing where they've come from. I'm sure the steroid treatment will do the trick. Summertime does bring strange disorders. Last year around this time, my daughter suddenly developed a red eye, and was also very painful. It seemed like just an ordinary conjunctivis infection, so we bought the usual eyedrops from the chemist's. After two weeks, no difference. So I had to take her to a private ophthalmologist, he diagnosed an 'atypical type of conjunctivitis', didn't know if it was bacterial or viral. Luckily the treatment he gave her, worked successfully.

    All the best to you all, have a good night's sleep.
    Rose.
     
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  14. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Thank you for your praise of me, Rose,
    comparing me to the kind men who helped
    your daughter & her friends. At first, I was
    confused when you referred to the "lady
    restaurant owner". She was actually the
    manager ( hardly ever saw owner). I had a
    very different experience with an outdoor
    Greek restaurant. The family is warm &
    friendly, and caters to my Celiac Disease
    needs , by serving me delicious all beef
    hot dogs, hamburgers, & chicken salad, on
    gluten free bread. The 20 year old daughter
    is beautiful, inside & out. I told her I was
    old enough to be her grandfather ( sigh),
    but I had to say how beautiful she is, with
    her radiant smile. I told her that her
    boyfriend should be very good to her, and
    she smiled, & said he is. I also poked fun at
    myself by telling the story of when I was
    awakened by a nurse , in her 50s, as I
    was coming out of anesthesia. I saw a
    woman, with dyed red hair ( a nurse), and
    I told my nurse how beautiful the young
    woman was. She looked at me with slight
    disapproval, & said " you're old enough to be her grandfather!!". That hurt, but I
    chuckled. Soon after, I said the hell with
    that, and called out to the redhead that I'm
    old enough to be her grandfather, but wanted to say how beautiful she is. Mission accomplished. The young woman smiled, &
    I didn't look at my judgemental nurse, who
    was probably irritated that I didn't say that
    about her. I've reached the point, " in the
    autumn of my years", as Sinatra sings, that
    I will speak my mind & not let a moment,
    good or bad, pass by me. Incidentally, the
    young daughter of the Greek restaurant
    suggested a Greek salad, occasionally with
    chicken kabobs on top. It's a healthier meal, especially now, and I told her how
    grateful I was for her suggestion. She
    smiled at me, and said she never got a
    "dirty old man" vibe from me. Thank
    God! Lou
     
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  15. RLC

    RLC Well-Known Member

    Thank you Lou, she’s been pretty miserable. We’re thinking it’s poison ivy. But no idea where she got it from. I’m happy you’re doing so well. I’m glad you’re using Linda’s cane and can feel her with you. If I recall correctly I think you have another appointment tomorrow. Hope that goes well. More prayers coming your way. Robin
     
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  16. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Robin, So sorry your daughter is suffering,
    when she should be enjoying the summer.
    I've never had poison ivy, but I know it's
    miserable. Hope she gets it treated quickly.
    I'm always amazed when you & other GW
    remember my appointments, bc you're
    all dealing with so much, on top of grief.
    My mammogram is at 10am tomorrow. I
    plan to be at Whale's Jaw for lunch &
    live music, around noon. I'm trying to
    take one day at a time. My fear of pain
    after the hernia surgery was worse than
    the experience. Isn't that how it usually
    works? Lou
     
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  17. RLC

    RLC Well-Known Member

    Thanks again Lou, I feel so bad for her. Hopefully she starts feeling better soon. You are right, we tend to make things worse in our minds then they are. I’m just happy you’re doing so well. And tomorrow will go well too and then off for a nice lunch and live music. One day at a time, is there any other way.
    Robin
     
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  18. cjpines

    cjpines Well-Known Member

    OMG, poison ivy. I'm prone to it, ivy and oak. It has to run its course. I feel for her. The doctor gave me a cortisone shot which helped, but what it did was prolong the process of healing. Took forever to disappear.
     
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  19. cjpines

    cjpines Well-Known Member

    Yes, healing is painful. You're very positive -- everything will be okay. Faith.
     
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  20. RLC

    RLC Well-Known Member

    Thank you so much for sharing. I’ve never had it. She hasn’t either. They’re all blisters and so painful on top of itchy. But you know all that. We have zero experience with this. As a child Ron cut down a small tree, making a fort. Inside was pink. Yup poison sumac. He thought it was beautiful and carried a piece home to give to his Mom. He was in bad shape. The dr has my daughter on steroids and now they’re turned bright red. Like crazy bright red. Feels a tiny bit better. Thank you! I told her my friends here feel for her.
     
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