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18 months from losing my husband

Discussion in 'Loss of Spouse' started by JanGlancy, Jan 30, 2023.

  1. Gary166

    Gary166 Guest

    OMG Deb just hearing your Mother’s words of a punishing God brings back terrible childhood memories. Mom’s side were souther Baptist from Georgia. As a boy I grew up being told I was going to hell if I didn’t conform to their religious brainwashing. Those memories are lasting. Taking Mom to family reunions down yonder was hell because I still felt like they perceived me as the demon from the north. I never conformed to their insane belief system. Now I believe there is positive and negative energy in the universe. The positive energy is love. The negative is fear. I find myself in between both like yin and yang. Always changing. I get stuck in the loss of my beloved Cheerful Cheryl often. The challenge is to cultivate the love we have for beloveds. I’m going to a special place today to celebrate my love for Cheryl. It is a large flower garden at the Gene Stratton Portor Historical Site. It was one of Cheryl’s favorite spots. The last photo I took of Cheryl was here. There is a wishing well I will visit and then I will walk the trails. I’m going to seize the day to the best of my ability. Gary
     
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  2. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    BroGar, that's a touching tribute to Cheryl
    that you're going to one of her favorite
    spots, and the wishing well. One of the
    wedding photos I have, has Linda & I
    standing at a wishing well. As DEB would
    say,it's a bittersweet memory, or as
    Robin would say a happy mixed with sad
    episode, bc I made a wish at the time, that
    Linda & I would be happy, healthy, and
    grow old together. Alas, that was not to
    be. Lou
     
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  3. Gary166

    Gary166 Guest

    Thank you Bro Van Gogh. I just returned from the wishing well. Today it was a very blue sky and the lake was partly frozen. The wind low. I was the only human there. I walked the trails and looked at the flower beds still in hibernation. More good memories than sad today. I christened a new hiking stick in Cheryl’s memory too. When I got back to the car I realized I lost one of Cheryl’s gloves. I retraced my steps and couldn’t find it. On the way home I thought well I had a good time but I lost Cheryl’s glove. The typical happy mixed with sad narrative. after tearing everything out of the car the second time the glove was between the seat and car door. Amazing how finding the glove changed my whole perception. I feel alive again. Gary
     

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  4. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Garbear, I choked up about your story of
    Cheryl's glove, and I'm so glad you found it.
    My wife believed that if we prayed to St.
    Anthony if we misplaced something, that
    we would find it. It would always work, if
    we prayed in our small apartment, bc we knew the item was in there. Our prayer
    also worked most of the time outside.



    As I've said here before, I'd be distraught
    if I lost Linda's cane. But, as I told Robin
    who lost the cane Ron gave her, & was
    devastated, I said that if that ever happened to me, I would buy another
    cane which looked just like Linda's. Robin
    agreed that she'd do the same. BroLou
     
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  5. Patti 67

    Patti 67 Active Member


    Hi Gary, heartwarming to read your post, so glad you were able to visit you, Cheryl’s garden.
    Brought big smile to me you’re finding Cheryl’s glove. It brought a memory back to me. I’ve worn Jack’s
    Wedding ring on my left pointer finger since he transitioned, ( I visited sis and bro in Arizona several years back )
    some how one day it it fell off while there, we had been out that morning, I went and traced each place we had
    been, hopeful to find it.
    I was so heartbroken.About six months later, their grandson, children were visiting them, adults were
    all out on patio, kids in family room, their great grandaughter excited ran out to sis saying look what
    I found, an eight year old “ her nameIs GRACE ” it was Jack’s wedding ring, she showed my sis where
    it was, it was on that large area rug in which was vacuumed many times weekly those six months, I
    had her keep it till I flew back and got it. I wear it all the time.
    You and all GW “Family” are in my thoughts and daily prayers.
    Blessings, Patti
     
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  6. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Patti, what a wonderful story you shared
    with Gary & all TGW. I've missed you, but I
    know you've been following our posts, and
    replying from time to time. Please try to
    stay healthy and as happy as you can, on
    this tiring, happy & sad, journey. Lou
     
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  7. Deborah A.

    Deborah A. Well-Known Member

    Thank you Gary. It’s hard shaking off the poison of punitive beliefs and living in love. I do try daily to kick those demons from the recesses of my heart and mind. I miss Steve, and I regret so much from his final 8 months. I know he wouldn’t want me to be regretting so much, but I didn’t focus enough on the love that we built for our family. It’s too late now, but I’m trying to move forward and support others. Again, probably not doing enough.
     
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  8. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Deb, please try not to beat yourself up.
    All of us did the best we could, with what
    we knew at the time. 20/20 highsight doesn't do us any good. Lou
     
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  9. Deborah A.

    Deborah A. Well-Known Member

    I am struggling with this. Our wedding vows state: til death us do part. Steve begged me to help him at the end. And I didn’t do that. So yes, there is guilt. I broke my promise and broke his heart. I let him struggle through pain and suffering and I didn’t protect him from the worst of cancer. I am guilty of that.
     
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  10. Deborah A.

    Deborah A. Well-Known Member

    If we can’t be who our spouses need in their most desperate moments, then who are we?
     
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  11. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Deb, I really urge you to read The
    Widower's Notebook, bc the author
    struggles with that question. Lou
     
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  12. Patti 67

    Patti 67 Active Member

    Dear Deborah, I haven’t been able to get in GIC much for past six months.I have missed reading
    everyones postings. I’m so sorry for you’re loss of your beloved Steve.
    Finding GIC was a real Blessing for me after I lost my Dear Jack after 24 Years of Parkinson’s.
    He was only 57 at time of diagnoses. We were married 61 years.
    Those first four years after he transitioned held all the years of memories of his suffering,
    especially his last nine years. I couldn’t remember our lives before Parkinson’s. Raising, loving
    our family loving each other doing everything together. My only brother Carl was laid to rest
    same day God spared my husband from suffering any longer.
    Deborah you did everything you could for your husband. I heard “The Serenity Prayer” as a child,
    it’s words helped me through all my life, I said it many times over during the last months while
    Jack was still with me,”there was nothing I could do to change his suffering.” Then came
    “The wisdom to call Hospice.”
    The Serenity Prayer is helping me now at age 85 to take each day as it comes, remembering
    Being grateful for my many Blessings in life, finding this wonderful support group.
    Sending you love, prayers and a big hug, Patti
     
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  13. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Patti, your loving comforting words to
    Deb, are so moving and true. You are the
    grande dame leader on GIC. You and
    Karen ( who I nicknamed "Ms. Hum")
    were the first 2 people to welcome me to
    GIC, and I will be forever grateful to you.
    You may be 85, but many of us are right
    behind, in our 70s and 80s. You truly are
    an inspiration. Lou
     
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  14. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Deb, I had to go to a grief counselor after
    Linda's sudden death in front of me, from
    a pulmonary embolism, after undergoing
    physical therapy to help her walk, while
    battling cancer. I couldn't sleep, and had
    PTSD bc I couldn't get my last image of
    Linda out of my mind. I was always
    bringing her water, ginger ale,etc,but I
    was so involved in the petty day to day
    visits, talking with the dietary staff and
    nurses with Linda, that I later asked myself
    why I didn't hug her more, whether staff
    was in her room, or not. My grief counselor
    told me that the important thing is that I
    was there for her, and talked with her
    almost to the end. She would ask for more
    pain medicine, but the nurses were stingy
    about that bc she might get "addicted". It
    was very hard to see Linda in pain. She
    called me in the middle of the night, not
    knowing what time it was, bc she was
    lonely and afraid,and said the overnight
    nurse was mean and refused to increase
    her dose of pain medicine. I am crying as
    I write this, but I want to let you know
    you're not alone in your feelings of guilt
    that you didn't do enough to "save" your
    soulmate. Most of The Grief Warriors
    (TGW), as I call us, feel the same way. Lou
     
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  15. JanGlancy

    JanGlancy Member

     
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  16. JanGlancy

    JanGlancy Member

    Hi Deborah
    My husband wanted MAiD but ended up having back surgery for mets to his spine. He was so mistreated by the hospital and became confused and could not eat. He succumbed in 10 days to infection and starvation. I suffer terrible guilt. We all thought the surgery would give him relief and ability to continue immunotherapy. He knew better.
    We do our best with what we are given and are driven by love. If the roles were reversed the scenario might be the same. Who knows. We do what we do because we love them. Guilt will not help anyone now. It is important that our beloved knew they were loved. That is most important.
    Self compassion now for you.
    Jan
     
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  17. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Jan, I agree with you. Thank you for
    helping Deb----and me--- this morning.
    As I've said many times on GIC,I cry every
    morning for Linda. How could I not?
    She was a big part of my life, in our 25 yrs
    of marriage, and still is. All I can do, is
    remember the line from Frank Sinatra's
    sad ballad, Cycles: "Life is meant for
    living....". Lou
     
  18. Gary166

    Gary166 Guest

    It is a Beautiful feeling finding something that we lost of our beloved Patti. Six months is a long time to go to finally be reunited with Jack’s wedding ring. Good to get your message. Gary
     
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  19. Deborah A.

    Deborah A. Well-Known Member

    When I die I want your hands on my eyes:
    I want the light and the wheat of your beloved hands
    to pass their freshness over me one more time[​IMG]
    to feel the smoothness that changed my destiny.

    I want you to live while I wait for you, asleep,
    I want for your ears to go on hearing the wind,
    for you to smell the sea that we loved together
    and for you to go on walking the sand where we walked.

    I want for what I love to go on living
    and as for you I loved you and sang you above everything,
    for that, go on flowering, flowery one,

    so that you reach all that my love orders for you,
    so that my shadow passes through your hair,
    so that they know by this the reason for my song.

    --Pablo Neruda,
     
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  20. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Deb, for your beautiful poem
    and serene picture. I just woke up,at 7am,
    my time, and it's a nice way to start the
    day. It's also the first day I haven't cried
    for Linda. It's probably bc I'm focused on
    my own health, bc I have a doctor's
    appointment this morning. The sun is
    shining, the birds are chirping, and I sense
    that spring is on its' way..... Lou
     
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