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Discussion in 'Loss of Spouse' started by Gary166, Oct 5, 2021.

  1. RLC

    RLC Well-Known Member

    Stacey, thank you for letting me know The Boys is on Disney +.

    And yes, Slinky is named after Slinky dog dash. Ron loved that ride, the whole family does.
     
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  2. RLC

    RLC Well-Known Member

    Karen, Just wanted to reach out and let you know you’re in my thoughts and prayers. Anniversaries are so difficult. I know there are no words I can say to that would make things easier for you. But we’re all here for you if you should want us.
    Sending you hugs and wishing you the strength to move forward
    ❤️ Robin
     
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  3. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

     
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  4. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    George, when Linda was in the rehab unit
    of the nursing home, I visited her every
    day, and sat on the couch in her room.
    I brought food to her, bc the food wasn't
    that great in there. We talked, even
    managed to laugh, during those times
    we could be alone, in between her
    painful physical therapy to get her to
    walk, despite her cancer. Just as in
    The Widower's Notebook, when Linda
    collapsed in front of me, & died soon after,
    I wanted to go with her. I suffered with
    PTSD, & went to a psychiatric unit, to
    deal with extreme bereavement, loneliness, . suicidal ideations. I had no
    purpose, as you said. My purpose, ( bc I
    had retired years ago),was to look after &
    care for my Linda. After one on one
    grief therapy, I realized my purpose was
    in helping, and in being kind to others.
    In the end, isn't that what life's all about?
    I have a reason to get up in the morning:
    to comfort, and to be comforted &
    encouraged by TGW here. Lou
     
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  5. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    What a great photo of you and Valerie. You
    look like such a happy couple,true
    soulmates. I must confess that even though
    I didn't know Valerie personally, I got
    choked up when I saw her smile. She
    reminded me of Linda. Lou
     
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  6. eyepilot13

    eyepilot13 Well-Known Member

    Oh that's so sweet my friend! I was going through files on my computer and I had scanned our wedding day photo. Those were the good days. I miss her so much. I'm glad it reminded you of something nice too.
     
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  7. eyepilot13

    eyepilot13 Well-Known Member

    I so want that to be my purpose to. TB sez everything is hopeless. He doesn't get that the positive stuff that is still out there. He thinks his life has been ruined. I get so frustrated but IU bite my tongue and realize this is how I used to feel. No one respects the newer more positive attempting me. I get no credit since Valerie died., She was my rock and strength.
     
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  8. eyepilot13

    eyepilot13 Well-Known Member

    I do not want to and will not celebrate any holiday sht this year!@ It was Valerie's thing. I'll never eat her toothsome holiday baked treats again. I did not have her wish me a happy birthday. (2 people did! wow!). She won't make Tgiving chili no christmas cookies... nothing. I don't want to play anymore!
     
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  9. eyepilot13

    eyepilot13 Well-Known Member

    I had just started dialysis when I got the call Valerie died. Hospice nurse was great. I wasn't with her at the last moment. I so regret this... I was a total robot for a month at least!
     
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  10. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    , I had to put our wedding photos
    in the closet. It's been 3 years since
    Linda died, but I can't look at the photo
    in which she gazes into my eyes with


    unconditional love, without crying.
    Maybe someday. Jonathan had the same
    problem, & couldn't bear to have her
    pictures in plain sight, He decided to
    draw sketches of her, of his adult
    daughter, & of himself, instead. Lou
     
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  11. eyepilot13

    eyepilot13 Well-Known Member

    I remember that from the book. I haven't had that problem even though I've had my own over share of every other negative thing imaginable. My new name should be "WorstCaseScenario". Valerie hated having any picture taken so I treasure the few I have.
     
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  12. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Karen,

    First I want you to know that I'm thinking of you today... I wish I could be with you in person.... I know I can't do anything to make you feel any better, but at least I could give you a "real" shoulder to cry on. I can't even begin to imagine how you're feeling today... I hope if you want company, your daughter is able to come over, just be here for you... Know that all of TGW are here for you!!!

    I have a few things I have to do before bringing my car in for some regular maintenance. I think they're going to tell me I need new tires, but hoping I'm wrong. I get the feeling this is going to be an expensive afternoon$$ I wish I could stay here and "talk" to you, but I'm going to have to keep this one short. I started crying as soon as I read your message... I "get" that robot feeling too. When the ambulance sped away from my house for the last time, I was in shock, numb, robot like. I don't know how to describe it, I was terrified that Bob wasn't going to be okay, I had a feeling he wasn't going to make it, but right at that moment, there wasn't much feeling behind the words, like I knew it, but it was just a fact. I immediately thought of things I had to do before driving to the hospital. First I had to get dressed. I was in an old pair of elastic waist cotton shorts and tee, no bra, ready for bed. I remember thinking that I needed to brush my hair, brush my teeth, get a face mask, make sure all the lights were turned off inside, that the outside light over the front door was on, and remember to take Bob's insurance cards and ID to the hospital. Backing way up, when the ambulance first arrived, I immediately got the list of all of Bob's drugs and handed it to the first person who came inside. I also gave him Bob's blood pressure, glucose, and temperature readings I took right before dinner. I did this mechanically without thinking about it. I watched the horrible scene in front of me unfolding... Bob stuck in that bathroom..., being put on sheets pulled out of my linen closet... medics racing outside to get the stretcher that was too big to fit into our very small guest bathroom... dragging Bob on the sheets into the living room... Bob being lifted onto the stretcher... seeing so many people working on Bob before wheeling him outside... and finally watching the ambulance take off, Bob inside, for what would be his very last ride. It seemed so surreal... It was happening, but at the same time it wasn't.

    I want to keep on "talking" to you, I want to finish this, but I have to get going. I will be back later.

    Sending lots of extra hugs your way today and hugs for Rambo too, the therapy cat, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  13. eyepilot13

    eyepilot13 Well-Known Member

    I miss her smile the most I think!
     
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  14. eyepilot13

    eyepilot13 Well-Known Member

    Wow... I so can picture the scene! I had paramedics here twice for Valerie. For the first months I was blank but relieved she wasn't suffering. Then I got busy with the house. Clearing out all the crap to sell it. I so wish I could talk to TGW in person too. There is no one to talk to now. I keep saying this I must be tedious. I hope everybody gets thru the day. I so hear that about car. Mine goes in next Monday and I'm pretty worried about $$$$ dam!!!$$$$. I managed to cry slightly last night for a brief time. It felt good. Now I'm back to scabbed over and scarred and scared and just blank. I am in one of those moods where I don't like anything! Best luck to you Deb with the car cirkus! Much love and hugz!
     
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  15. RLC

    RLC Well-Known Member

    Deb, we seem to have a lot in common. Bob being a Star Trek fan too, love it! Ron had so many Star Trek ornaments his side of the tree was nothing but Star Trek. Eventually we got an artificial tree for his ornaments. We’re into Hallmark ornaments too like you are. All these things are bittersweet. In time they kind of make me smile, the happy with sad. The memories stay forever. I don’t mean to make you cry but I understand it’s not sad crying. We’re all an emotional mess. That’s my way of keeping Ron close and so far it has helped me. Some of the things I do to keep Ron close probably could make others feel worse. We do what works for us. There’s times having Ron’s favorite foods, watching his movies etc bring me peace other times just the opposite.
    You made me smile mentioning that the bottom of the tree didn’t get the special ornaments. That’s how it is here too. Because of Teddy, he’s pretty well behaved with the tree but need to be careful and no tinsel on the bottom. Slinky is a ball of energy that should be interesting. Everything I’m reading from you is like I could have written it. Your special box of ornaments and how Bob carefully wrapped and safely put it away. Same here. Picture Christmas cards, yup. I love your description of your favorite card. So special. I have my favorites too. Mine is my daughter in her red Christmas dress holding her brother who was I’m guessing one month in the picture he was 2 months his first Christmas. He was a big baby and as big as my daughter almost. He was in blue, the love in her eyes. My other favorite I included my Mom. My kids were young teenagers, my Mom was suffering from dementia. I just love it.
    We all go through the guilt stages. It is a useless emotion, but we feel it. The holiday season is very hard. Part of me thinks that although it came so soon after Ron passed maybe that was good. No real time to think it through. I was numb, brain fog etc. I don’t know. You’ll figure it out and do what’s best for you. If staying home feels right then that’s what you should do. If joining family or friends feels like a good choice do that. For me like you mentioned, I need to be home where I would be if Ron was here. We’re all different. Just know there’s no right or wrong. It’s what gets you through each day what ever that might be, holiday or not.
    I have a busy day, I’m trying to answer posts as best I can. Teddy gets his stitches out today. Yay! I think he’s healing well, it’s looking better, some peach fuzz has started growing back in. Can’t wait until he can wear his harness again. Worried that won’t be for a while. Take care, Robin
     
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  16. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    George, when Linda collapsed in front of
    me, I pressed the buzzer for help. The
    nurse had stepped away from her desk &
    didn't answer. I had to leave Linda, and
    ran down the hall, yelling for help. Her
    favorite nurse & other nurses lifted her off
    the floor. I thought she was in good hands.
    I left the room, & sat with one of Linda's
    hysical therapists. All of a sudden, just
    like in the beginning of Jonathan's book,
    all hell broke loose. The rescue squad
    sped down the hall. I was sobbing
    uncontrollably, like I'd never done before.
    I knew in my gut that Linda wouldn't
    live. A physical therapist had her hand on
    my shoulder, bc I was feeling horrendous
    guilt that i had bothered Linda about our
    phone, which ironically died that morning.
    Her favorite nurse came over to tell me
    quietly that Linda had no pulse, but they
    would try to revive her, but I knew it was
    over. I followed her ambulance in another
    one, The driver asked me if I wanted to
    talk & I said no. When I arrived at the ER,
    I went into a small room with Bibles, and
    waited, for what seemed like a long time.
    Then, the ER doctor walked in, and told
    me what I already knew. She didn't make it. I didn't cry this time. I was numb. A social worker came in to ask me if I
    wanted to see Linda one last time, and I
    said no. I didn't want to see her lifeless
    body. I wanted to remember the last time
    we spoke to each other before she fell in
    that unnatural way. It took me 6 months
    of grief counseling to get that image of
    her falling, out of my head. I don't regret
    not seeing Linda's dead body, without her
    spirit. In his book, Jonathan regrets that
    he DID see his wife, Joy's body. The night
    Linda died, I asked the unfeeling
    admittance young woman at the window,
    to speak to a mental health professional.
    A man appeared, & took me upstairs, where I was admitted. A different, kindet
    ER doctor was concerned about me, and
    examined me, bc my manic depression
    magnified my trauma. He asked if I needed
    to go to a psychiatric hospital, but I said I
    could take a cab to my winter motel. 2
    nights later, sitting in my motel room,
    eating dinner with beer, I suddenly
    realized the next day was Thanksgiving,
    & I didn't want to be alone. I took a cab
    back to the ER, and this time, wanted to
    be in a small psychiatric unit. I'm glad I
    went. On Thanksgiving morning, I was
    joined by other lonely clients with manic
    depression, suicidal impulses, and alcohol
    & drug addiction. The counselor carved a
    turkey. At that moment. the other lost souls were my family. Thanks for listening,
    George, I guess I needed to get this out,
    on the 3 year anniversary of Linda's death.
    Lou
     
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  17. RLC

    RLC Well-Known Member

    Thank you Gary, I was in a very very dark place while waiting for someone, anyone to see my post and see how much I needed a “friend”. The response I finally got was perfect. So warm so understanding and obviously knew how I was feeling. He isn’t on this site any more. Eventually through time the 2 of us started welcoming new people every single day and it started to feel like a job. We were on here morning until night trying to help everyone and not experience what I had happen, the long wait. His sons in their 30’s live in the upstairs apartment of his home. Depression runs in his family and he started seeing signs his younger son wasn’t doing well and realized he needed to help his son. He stopped visiting this site I’m guessing over a year ago. I was able to reach him once since then and he was doing well and his son was getting counseling.
    I’m in love with how you spent so much time in the woods. Reflecting and enjoying nature. That acorn, single falling acorn spoke volumes to you. I can feel it as I read your experience. Cheryl is with you, you’re feeling her presence. Each of us has our spouses with us. We’ve spent so much time with them, they helped mold us into the people we are today. Some of the things we do or feel are because of the wonderful time we’ve had with them. They are a part of us. That’s not going anywhere.
    You had to go through dates that had meaning to you so soon after losing Cheryl, Im sure that’s all a blur. And then your psa, showing results you now have to figure out on your own. I agree that George is such a roll model for us all. He has more strength then he realizes. He’s not giving up and he has an angel trying to help him.
    I don’t know how I’m spending Thanksgiving either. I normally host all the holidays, and I wanted to keep things as close to what we had done every year, but it hasn’t happened that way. Even though I asked my family if they’d continue coming to help me through. We’ll see. If it’s just my daughter and I, I’m good with that. Who knows maybe we stay in pj’s all day. Kind of sounds like a good way to spend the day. Each of us will get through the holidays, we have each other. I knew when I finally got that response 2 years ago that this site would be my life saver. And it continues to be. You guys here and everyone on this site are family. I’ve told Karyn many times I give this site so much credit. I went from working every day, bookkeeping many nights, to retirement in a split second. I recall crying in my brothers arms and saying I don’t know how to close our business. I need Ron. Nothing in my life today is what it was 3 years ago. But I’m here, and pushing forward. Everyone here will get through some how just as I did. It’s not going to be like this forever but, it’s a long road. I feel I get stronger more then I feel I heal.
    Nice gone long enough, keep the Faith. Robin
     
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  18. eyepilot13

    eyepilot13 Well-Known Member

    Man that's such a heavy story. But we all have them. Thank you for sharing it/being able to share it. Someone is gonna look at the house today and I have my usual dyalisis. Could not read at all Tues. was able to doze a bit. It got so cold here now my hands are just freezing... I don't even remember seeing Valerie's body but I did... That night was a blur now blank. So many things are blanked out to me now. Wonder if thatz the coping mechanism... I don't know much. Just that I appreciate the friendship and support on here. I need it.
     
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  19. RLC

    RLC Well-Known Member

    Lou, I believe you’re right, you did need to get that out. I might need to also. But I’m already in tears today, maybe later. I totally understand you choosing not to see Linda after she passed. I did go in to see Ron. I was so sure when he left our home in the ambulance that he’d have surgery and we’d doctor him back to health that I needed to see him. I held his hand told him how much I loved him, reminded him of his promise to do everything in his power to let me know he was ok and with me. Just 2 hours prior we were in our living room watching Toy Story, as my kids each watched in their homes. That’s how we spent time together yet apart, by watching the same thing at the same time. My 2 children and I still do that but never Toy Story.
    Lou, I’m struggling like you seem to be as the 3rd anniversary approaches. I hope and pray Karen is doing ok today. We know how it feels and how much we relive every single second of how things happened.
    I’m so glad you have a kind hearted family to spend Thanksgiving with. It’s only good if that’s what we feel up to. If my brother should invite me I can’t go. I have to home. Where Ron and would be. He doesn’t seem to understand that.
    ❤️ Robin
     
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  20. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Karen,your story of your last days with
    Jack on earth, exactly one year ago, is
    truly heartbreaking, and I want you to
    think of me as a shoulder to cry on. This
    month of November seems to be
    particularly hard for Deb, Robin, you,
    myself & others here. Robin's husband
    Ron, died 2 days before Linda did, right
    before Thanksgiving, 3 years ago.I just
    unloaded and cried on George's shoulder.
    That's what we TGW are about. As in a
    military battle, we leave no man, or
    woman, behind. That's where I came up
    with the title for our group. I am thinking
    of you today, & want to comfort you like
    you comfort me. Lou
     
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